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Offline Les Symonds

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What sort of gouge is this?
« on: September 22, 2013, 08:43:42 AM »
Hi...I've been given a couple of turning tools and amongst them is a gouge, which the owner thought was a roughing-out gouge, but the profile of the flute leads me to believe that it might not be. The tool appears to be made from flat-bar section, rolled into a shape that is neither really 'U' nor 'V', but somewhere between the two. It's more like a 'V', but with a curve at the bottom, so tends to resemble a bowl gouge. It's made by Draper and has a 7" blade in a 12" handle.





My question is twofold, firstly, what is it and secondly, how should I regrind it?


Thanks....Les
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Re: What sort of gouge is this?
« Reply #1 on: September 22, 2013, 10:25:44 AM »
its looks like my budget spindle roughing gouge.

Paul
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Re: What sort of gouge is this?
« Reply #2 on: September 22, 2013, 10:52:36 AM »
As Paul says, looks like a roughing gouge. Basically the same grind profile as it has. It is fixed to the handle via a tand, most bowl and spindle gouges are made from round bars that go straight into the handle.

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Re: What sort of gouge is this?
« Reply #3 on: September 22, 2013, 01:32:33 PM »
Cheers Paul/Pete....I had considered that it could be a ROG...but the lute profile seems wrong, it's quite narrow, whereas my other ROGs have a distinct semi-circular profile!

Les
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Re: What sort of gouge is this?
« Reply #4 on: September 22, 2013, 04:59:14 PM »

It looks very much like a poorly profiled 25mm Roughing Gouge. It's one also found in the Axminter budget/perform tool set.

The profile as such, makes it very difficult to use, roll it on to it's side and you present a large cutting edge very suddenly indeed.

Grind .. if it could be done, the usual square across, but with this one you'd get it more winged, if it's not already.

I can readily understand where new comers can find turning difficult and give up .. It's how we got the Wife's Lathe + Ax set .. I soon realised why this type of R.O.G was a problem in itself and for the Wife to use, almost to the point, that rollig on it side it needed to be used more as a skew in cut .. no problems at all when given the much larger Henry Taylor ... Honestly the poor standard of this tool almost got Her quitting, well it limited the interest to turn.

Go carefully if you intend using it.

Cheers  Dewi

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Re: What sort of gouge is this?
« Reply #5 on: September 22, 2013, 06:40:05 PM »
That's it, Dewi bach, it's going onto ebay!
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Re: What sort of gouge is this?
« Reply #6 on: September 22, 2013, 07:17:29 PM »
Quote from: gwyntog on September 22, 2013, 06:40:05 PM
That's it, Dewi bach, it's going onto ebay!

Small ...

Les, This very badly manufactured tool I'd not wish on any Turner ... as for those that have them made ... Well !!!

Dewi.

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Re: What sort of gouge is this?
« Reply #7 on: September 22, 2013, 08:21:57 PM »
Hi again, Dewi....I must admit that since posting that very tongue-in-cheek remark, I decided to just chuck it away. It would be easy to make a few quid by passing it on to an inexperienced turner such as myself, but that's hardly in the craft's best nature.

So here's a challenge.....what could I make out of it?

Les
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Re: What sort of gouge is this?
« Reply #8 on: September 22, 2013, 08:46:30 PM »
It could be used as a scraper burnisher
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Re: What sort of gouge is this?
« Reply #9 on: September 22, 2013, 08:49:54 PM »
Les,

the Spindle Roughing Gouge is a Roughing Out Gouge.
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Re: What sort of gouge is this?
« Reply #10 on: September 22, 2013, 09:19:07 PM »
I wouldn't throw it away, I have the axminister version and have no problems using it or sharpening it with a square grind across the front. There is no doubt its not the best quality tool but it can be used.

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Re: What sort of gouge is this?
« Reply #11 on: September 22, 2013, 10:43:26 PM »
Les ,I adopted a policy many many years ago to never get rid of any tools until I was forced to get rid of them all. It does cause problems sometimes with space but even a cheap and nasty tool can be utilised for other things at other times. As you become more proficient you may find this particular tool quite handy.
So I would advocate holding onto it for the time being.
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Re: What sort of gouge is this?
« Reply #12 on: September 25, 2013, 08:11:51 AM »
I have one just like that and find it very easy to use at all angles,I suppose its just its just how experienced you are and and how careful you are when first using any new tool,its just getting the knack of the tools little foibles I think,regards,

Eric.
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Re: What sort of gouge is this?
« Reply #13 on: September 27, 2013, 11:31:34 AM »
I have to admit that I am a bit like Eric, This is the only one I have and it was given to me when I first started Turning a few years ago now and it works for me. I just grind it at 45deg straight across and it does the job, I have never used anything else.
Just for the record, what is wrong with it ?
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Re: What sort of gouge is this?
« Reply #14 on: September 27, 2013, 12:07:44 PM »
Hi Julian...nothing wrong with it that I've noticed....I just didn't know what it was as it didn't fit the pattern of gouges that I'm used to. It was the earlier responses to the thread that led me to believe that it was not a very good gouge...quite a few members felt very negatively about it.
Les
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