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Offline Bill21

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Wax
« on: January 24, 2022, 11:33:53 AM »
I needed some high gloss wax for a project but didn’t have the time to get any from one of the specialist suppliers. Whilst doing a search for something I could get quickly Kiwi “Parade Gloss” came up so I thought why not? It seems to be the same as most other waxes containing Carnauba wax, Beeswax and Turpentine. I bought the neutral shade and it worked well on Yew. I then did a search on the topic of using Shoe wax on wood and it seems lots of folks have been using it for years! Not just neutral but some of the  many different shades available as well. Apparently over in the USA Johnson & Johnson don’t like you using it on wood, probably because it’s less expensive than their wood wax! Depending on supplier it can be as little as 1/10 the cost of wood wax so not expensive to try if you feel inclined. Probably not food safe but I don’t eat wood so not much of an issue for me.  ;D

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Re: Wax
« Reply #1 on: January 24, 2022, 01:53:50 PM »
Good way of adding colour as well if you use the various different shades available.

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Re: Wax
« Reply #2 on: January 24, 2022, 05:41:04 PM »
Be cautious of the naphtha solvent can be up to 70% of many shoe polishes, wax can be synthetic oil based ones as well. I would be unlikely to sell anything finished in it as i have no iidea what the longer term finish would be, but interesting for kept pieces to see how it ages.

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Offline Bill21

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Re: Wax
« Reply #3 on: January 24, 2022, 07:52:59 PM »
Well as I mentioned, the “Parade Gloss” uses Carnauba wax, Beeswax and Turpentine which gives it a pleasant smell.
The Black Bison Wood wax I bought some years ago has a really nasty smell to it so probably some kind of hydrocarbons as you say.

I saw this the other day which I found interesting. I guess it also applies to some degree with waxes.
If the solvent didn’t evaporate the polish wouldn’t dry. ;)

https://youtu.be/m3orVP3pZ_k

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Re: Wax
« Reply #4 on: January 25, 2022, 12:48:04 PM »
I tend to make my own wax finishes using beeswax and olive oil. It's just one part beeswax to three parts extra virgin olive oil, and two or three drops of essential oil if you want it scented. Just bring the olive oil to the boil and add grated beeswax chips. Stir until melted, let it cool a little bit in the pan, then transfer to heat-proof containers to cool (I use left-over Tupperware from Chinese takeaways).

I don't know if you'd call it high gloss, possibly not, but I've found that it's just as good as BriWax and you can also say that it's organic, so long as you're using organic oil and beeswax, which is attractive to some customers.

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Re: Wax
« Reply #5 on: January 25, 2022, 02:13:05 PM »
There are countless numbers of waxes on the market, I have several. They all seem to work well enough for their intended purpose. I wanted something quite glossy for my last piece. From what I’ve read it needs to have a certain percentage of a hard wax like Carnauba in it to give a good gloss. I was going to mix my own but I shan’t bother now.

I have made my own abrasive wax with Beeswax, Walnut Oil and Pumice powder though and it works well.

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Re: Wax
« Reply #6 on: March 03, 2022, 05:32:58 PM »
I have been given a jarof beeswax and linseed oil, and I have yet to try it. Anyone lse tried this
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Re: Wax
« Reply #7 on: March 03, 2022, 06:37:13 PM »
I have been given a jarof beeswax and linseed oil, and I have yet to try it. Anyone lse tried this
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I have used beeswax and mineral oil mix, was told it was great for chopping boards, I was a bit underwhelmed 
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Re: Wax
« Reply #8 on: March 03, 2022, 08:07:19 PM »
I don’t know why they use non drying oils in finishes. Many folks in the USA seem to use Walnut rather than Mineral Oil in their home made concoctions. I’ve used it in Abrasive Wax and it works well.