Japanese hook tool

[bodrighywood]

I use a ring tool a lot both on goblets and smaller bowls. Gwet a good finish from it but it does get bunged up a lot hence the idea of using a hook tool which in essence is hakf a ring tool LOL. I have seen the german ones but couldn't see how you used them as they seemed to just be an end section with no obvious way of putting them onto a handle. Need to go back perhaps and look again. I think it's Mike Hosaluk who makes them in the US but again shipping makes them too expensive.

pete

[Bryan Milham]

Now that statement becomes slightly annoying.

Mike Hosaluk was demonstrating at the AWGB Seminar and he had hooks for sale but knowing you were looking for a Japanese Hook I never thought to grab one for you - sorry.

[The Bowler Hatted Turner]

Just a thought and I have never tried this so don't fully know the dangers involved but what if you were to cut away part of your ring tool? I realise the stresses then become changed but would they be changed so much as to make the tool dangerous? I know the hook tool is a slightly different shape but perhaps ......who knows? I still favour making one Pete.

[The Bowler Hatted Turner]

Interested in this thread I have just looked at a page about Robin Wood. On there he mentions that the hook tool that pole lathe turners use is too delicate for use on a powered lathe and if so used may well break. Not being an expert on this I cannot comment but food for thought Pete.

[bodrighywood]

The ones used on a pole lathe are subject to less stress, probably why he (Robin) quoted me a big price to make one. I actually have an old ring tool, could grind the back off and see if it works wearing full safety gear to do so LOL. Seriously it is worth a go. Just as a pont of interest, the japanese ones seem to be backwards as they turn bowls on the far side, the upstroke as it were in the videos I have seen. If I had the know how I would consider making one but I am about as ignorant as is possible regarding metal work.

Pete

[John Plater]

Hello Pete,
ref "but it does get bunged up a lot"
Asmund Vignes had a ring tool sharpened on both edges. He starts the cut in the centre of the piece. As the ring fills with shavings he then flips the tool over to complete the cut and remove the shavings in one hit ! Is your ring tool the open type or shielded type ?
ATB John

[bodrighywood]

Hi John,
The ring tool that I have is open but a different diameter each side. I usually use the larger diameter. Both are edged. Like this
The one that Asmund Vignes uses is similar but I find the smaller bevel difficult to get a cut with.
Pete

[John D Smith]

 Hi again Pete I mentioned in an earlier posting check with David Woodward he has now put a  video on Face book of a

Japanese Woodturner Yasuhiro Satake who was demonstrating at the 2009 AWGB Seminar using Hook Tools he was fantastic

 and could do anything with these tools it is worth watching this man was a great friend of David.

                                Regards John

[bodrighywood]

I have seen the video and one or two others over the years and they are what picqued my interest. Not sure about cutting on the opposite side mind. I find oriental art and craft a major inspiration. both in design and technique. Learning to use a minimum of tools and equipment appeals.

pete

[julcle]

Hi Pete,  I was talking to Mark Sanger yesterday and the subject of the hook tool came up in conversation. He seems to think that the tool is still available and just to prove it pulled one out of his box. I thought of you straight away, he did say that he would ring you but you could of course ring him next week (or tomorrow I suppose) as he is up in Mid Wales today ( Sunday ).   Julian

[bodrighywood]

Thanks Julian. I have been chatting to Andy Coates and he put me onto a german make that looks good. See how that works out.

Pete

[The Bowler Hatted Turner]

Thanks Julian. I have been chatting to Andy Coates and he put me onto a german make that looks good. See how that works out.

Pete

Perhaps this would be a good demo for the club if you get one Pete?

[bodrighywood]

Let me make sure I can use it first John LOL. Bernard has asked me to demonstrate goblets next month so if I get it in time I might be able to use it then. I'll be using the ring tool anyway.

Pete

[julcle]

Where would this Demo be Pete ?

[bodrighywood]

Our local club in Trowbridge.

Pete