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Offline Dave Atkinson

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Take great care when using power carvers such as the lancelot
« on: September 15, 2011, 05:58:09 PM »
Here is a copy of a post I copied from another forum.  It speaks for itself.

     The purpose of this post is to help prevent others from having an accident while carving legs on a bowl. I have posted several pictures of natural edge bowls with carved legs and feel a sense of responsibility to warn others of the dangers of using a King Arthur’s Lancelot carving disk. The 4 “disk is made with a small piece of chain saw chain with 22 teeth that circle the disk. The disk is mounted on a 4 ½” grinder and is extremely aggressive and dangerous and runs at 40,000 RPM’s.
WoW member and friend Dennis Doebler had seen several of my 3 leg bowls and wanted to turn and carve a bowl with legs. I had offered to show Dennis how I carve the legs so he would have a total and complete understanding of how to safely carve the legs. I made absolutely sure that Dennis understood how dangerous the Lancelot tool can be.
All of the carving I do is performed between centers on the lathe. The piece is jam chucked and the tail stock is brought up to secure the piece so that it can not move. The headstock locking pin is engaged and the pressure between centers is very strong to insure that the piece to be carved will not move. TWO HANDS AT ALL TIMES is the only way I ever use the Lancelot.
Dennis decided to carve the legs in his shop with no direction or supervision. Dennis will tell you that this was a huge mistake. The bowl was turned and ready to carve. Dennis removed the bowl from the lathe, set it on the work bench, plugged in the grinder with the Lancelot carving disk and was ready to begin carving. He sat at his stool, picked up the grinder, turned it on and held the grinder with one hand and the bowl with the other. The instant that Dennis touched the grinder to the bowl, the grinder violently jumped out of his right hand striking his left hand then surged upward striking him under the chin then powered around his neck to just below his right ear. He was air lifted by Life Flight to the University of Kentucky Hospital. His little finger, ring finger and middle finger were badly injured requiring 2 hours of initial surgery to close the wounds and an additional 3 hours of surgery yesterday to reconnect the tendons and ligaments. The knuckles and bone were ground into powder by the Lancelot and no useable bone fragments existed. The Lancelot cut into Dennis’ neck more than two inches deep, missed his jugular vein by 2 millimeters, miraculously skipped over his carotid artery, dug back in and continued cutting around his neck to just below the right ear. It took well over 100 stitches to close the injuries to his neck. Dennis said the doctors quit counting when they reached 100 stitches then continued sewing him up for over one additional hour.
Dennis called this evening, assisted in the writing of this and asked me to post this information for him. He is facing several months of healing and physical therapy before he can get back to turning.
Dennis insisted on posting this information in an attempt to help keep others safe from doing the same thing.
If you are going to use the Lancelot, please make sure the piece you intend to carve is mounted solid so that it can not move and use both hands when carving with the grinder and the Lancelot.

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Re: Take great care when using power carvers such as the lancelot
« Reply #1 on: September 15, 2011, 06:14:53 PM »
There's not much to say after that horror story! I hope he recovers soon.

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Re: Take great care when using power carvers such as the lancelot
« Reply #2 on: September 15, 2011, 09:19:02 PM »
I was considering the purchase of one of these cutters, so a timely warning, thanks for that and I hope Dennis recovers fully in time.
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Re: Take great care when using power carvers such as the lancelot
« Reply #3 on: September 15, 2011, 10:13:40 PM »

Had read this before, it brings home just how dangerous that or any high speed cutting tool can be, in the end this is no less than a chainsaw, for which today, you need training before you ever get to own/use one and safety kit to safeguard being cut should anything go wrong, as with any tool designed to cut, it will do just that without any respect as to the material, I have read of gloves for carvers, but they may not stand up to this form of tool.

As for the reason of this post, may we all Take Great Care and think twice as to what we maybe doing or going to do, it could be that second which makes all the difference, it may of for Dennis and we wish him well...  Always in hind sight ..  we say, IF we'd only thought ....  the last thing we want is to read about YOU or ME..  be safe at all times and that's not cutting corners or is it off square blanks..   ??? ...

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Re: Take great care when using power carvers such as the lancelot
« Reply #4 on: September 16, 2011, 08:27:28 PM »
These events need to be posted on our sites. We can all become complacent with the things we use and do. How many of us preach that you should always stop the lathe before moving the tool rest then five minuets later do exactly the opposite. If by posting such things we save just one plaster then we can all sleep at night with a clean conscience.

PS I am typing this with one finger as I have just bought a new sharpening device and was honing a gouge and cut my finger on very sharp gouge, unfortunately my wife was stood behind me, she ran into the house for a plaster before administering first aid on the digit whilst giving me a lengthy lecture on health and safety.
Yes I am very happy with my new sharpener.

Dave.