AWGB Woodturning Forum
General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Lazurus on April 16, 2022, 10:42:08 AM
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I have a couple of versa chucks and an Axminster precision which I know take different jaw carrier’s I also have a versa chuck 3 and here lies the problem my versa chuck or Axminster jaw carriers will not fit. So why don’t the versa chuck carriers work and any suggestions as to where I can obtain some relevant jaw carriers.
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https://www.beaufortink.co.uk/ (https://www.beaufortink.co.uk/) have taken over the chuck from Toolpost and can possibly assist.
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You beat me to it Pete! ;D
Edit: I’d be interested in knowing how good a fit the jaws are when you get them. From my experience jaws in woodturning chucks (some Woodturners call slides) are notoriously slack compared to the jaws in metalwork chucks. For this reason I’ve been contemplating getting a Versa chuck in the hope they are a more precision fit.
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You beat me to it Pete! ;D
Edit: I’d be interested in knowing how good a fit the jaws are when you get them. From my experience jaws in woodturning chucks (some Woodturners call slides) are notoriously slack compared to the jaws in metalwork chucks. For this reason I’ve been contemplating getting a Versa chuck in the hope they are a more precision fit.
I have just bought one Bill it will arrive soon, plan is to leave my Axminster cole jaws on it permanently. I will post my thoughts when it arrives.
Though I do wonder why you think precision fit is an advantage when the medium we work with grows, shrinks, changes shape, can be spongy, and has stress fractures from when it was felled that may or may not be in the region you are putting in the chuck! ;D
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I do wonder why you think precision fit is an advantage.
Given they aren’t any cheaper I wonder why self centering four jaw scroll chucks manufactured for wood turning aren’t made with the same precision as metal work chucks. Need really has nothing to do with it of course. If you only ever turn bowls or other large stuff it’s not an issue. If you’ve also never used a metal work lathe then you’d also probably not notice how poor a fit some chuck jaws are. If you turn smaller stuff like boxes though an 1/8” out here or there makes a huge difference.
As a metalwork tools manufacturer, I suspect the polish Bison chucks made for Axminster years ago are made to a higher standard than some WW chucks I’ve seen but I’ve not had the chance to examine one. If a decent example - not like the rusty banged up examples seen for sale recently - came up at a fair price I’d probably buy one. Second option would be the Versachuck, hence my earlier request.
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The two versa chucks I already use are very precise I just can’t understand why their carriers do not fit the versa Chuck three - curious
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The two versa chucks I already use are very precise I just can’t understand why their carriers do not fit the versa Chuck three - curious
Thanks for that. Perhaps just a different manufacturer? It only takes a slight difference in jaw dimensions or even the scroll for them not to fit. There’s never been a standard for these things that I’m aware of.
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This makes you wonder why some (woodturning) chucks are so expensive. 100mm four jaw self Centering scroll chuck £67.15 inc vat.
https://www.arceurotrade.co.uk/Catalogue/Chucks/Lathe-Chucks/4-Jaw-Self-Centring-Cast-Iron-Lathe-Chucks-Chinese-Origin
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This makes you wonder why some (woodturning) chucks are so expensive. 100mm four jaw self Centering scroll chuck £67.15 inc vat.
https://www.arceurotrade.co.uk/Catalogue/Chucks/Lathe-Chucks/4-Jaw-Self-Centring-Cast-Iron-Lathe-Chucks-Chinese-Origin
Don't think those come with a back plate to fit the spindle, by the time you include that cost they are not particularly cheap compared to Record Power / Nova etc. with a much restricted jaw availability.
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Don't think those come with a back plate to fit the spindle, by the time you include that cost they are not particularly cheap compared to Record Power / Nova etc. with a much restricted jaw availability.
You seem to have misunderstood. It was the principle, I wasn’t suggesting using one on a wood turning lathe. They don’t come with a backplate as they don’t need one. ;)
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You beat me to it Pete! ;D
Edit: I’d be interested in knowing how good a fit the jaws are when you get them. From my experience jaws in woodturning chucks (some Woodturners call slides) are notoriously slack compared to the jaws in metalwork chucks. For this reason I’ve been contemplating getting a Versa chuck in the hope they are a more precision fit.
Hi Bill chuck arrived today I did an unboxing video on it very little slop on the jaw carriers https://youtu.be/gfUjPgsQQwU
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Thanks for that Pete. I may get one of those when they’re back in stock.
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Ooops! Don't know if it was a badly timed video when they were already out or if the video caused a rush! but several people have told me they are out of stock at the moment...
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Hi Pete,
The YouTube link you posted is incorrect - it took me to a review you did of an auger drill bit.
Cheers,
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Hi Pete,
The YouTube link you posted is incorrect - it took me to a review you did of an auger drill bit.
Cheers,
Sorry should have double checked... will check this after posting! https://youtu.be/gfUjPgsQQwU
Edit:- Checked correct...
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Hi Pete
Thanks for posting the video, could I ask is the back plate exactly the same dimensions/layout as the old Axminster precision chuck ?
Regards
John
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I can’t help but have a look here as there may be some relevance.
https://www.arceurotrade.co.uk/Catalogue/Chucks/Lathe-Chucks/4-Jaw-Self-Centring-Cast-Iron-Lathe-Chucks-Chinese-Origin
https://www.arceurotrade.co.uk/projects/Info/Lathe-Chuck-Dimensions-Diagram-2019.pdf
4” engineering chucks are virtually the same (apart from the jaws) and have a 72mm register on the back. Bolt circles may be the same?
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Hi Pete
Thanks for posting the video, could I ask is the back plate exactly the same dimensions/layout as the old Axminster precision chuck ?
Regards
John
Hi John
I would say yes probably... first pic is super precision on right Versa on left. Second pic is centres of screw holes top calliper Super Precision bottom Versa
p.s. I was talking to the company about doing another video on jaws, it was mentioned that 25 chucks are being flown in expected in 4 weeks with more coming by ship some time after, so if you want one of the 25, set up a notification for when they come in and be quick!
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Thanks so much Pete
My lathe has a flange the the super precision chuck bolts straight onto with no backplate- so no worries about going in either direction
I was worried when they stopped producing the super precision in favour of the SK115 😳
Thanks again
John
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I have both a Versachuck’s and Axminster super precision chuck’s and can confirm that the backplates are interchangeable. I have used Beaufort inks backplates to fit my chucks when changing lathes/threads.
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Thanks Lumsdep
That’s a relief I have my email notification set up
This is what’s brilliant about this forum!
Kind regards
John
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I have Axminister sk114 chuck , brilliant chuck ! I now need more carriers for my spare jaws ,which are £80 for two sets ,do any other carriers fit this chuck successfully ?
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I have Axminister sk114 chuck , brilliant chuck ! I now need more carriers for my spare jaws ,which are £80 for two sets ,do any other carriers fit this chuck successfully ?
None that I am aware of. would be interested if you find any £40 a set is a lot on top of the jaw price.