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Title: Carbide tool help
Post by: TimJester on December 10, 2021, 06:17:06 PM
Hi recently purchased a  carbide tool from amazon which has a dog leg handle, bhave tried hollowing with it and it just digs in and ruins my work, any tricks to using these sort of tools or should I just return it until I can afford something better?
Title: Re: Carbide tool help
Post by: Twisted Trees on December 10, 2021, 10:03:09 PM
I don't know carbides well, but this "bent" shape is quite common, first rule is move the toolrest out so none of the curve is on it, from the picture that looks like a scraping tool not a cutting one so just below centre is the presentation you are looking for.

I call these shoulder scrapers, they are not designed to hollow out to any depth (though you can on small things) they are for the bit you can't reach with a straight tool.
Title: Re: Carbide tool help
Post by: Bill21 on December 10, 2021, 10:49:12 PM
Most good bent hollowing tools have a C shaped end and only the straight part of the shaft should contact the tool rest to prevent the tool twisting. The cutter itself needs to be on the centre line of the shaft.

There are two solutions to your problem. Either put another bend in the tool to bring the cutter back to the centre line, or you could make and fit an “outrigger” to the tool to stop it twisting.
Title: Re: Carbide tool help
Post by: Bill21 on December 10, 2021, 10:58:13 PM
An example of some tools with outriggers. When both shafts are on the tool rest, in theory the tip is not able to twist. Outriggers can be fitted in several ways, commonly welded or bolted to the main shaft. DIY solutions are easily done if you have the tools and material. Alternatively return the tool as you suggested and buy a better shaped model.
Title: Re: Carbide tool help
Post by: BrianH on December 11, 2021, 08:54:45 AM
A larger diameter handle will give you a bit more leverage to counteract the twist. It's not an ideal or complete solution but is relatively easy and might help.
Brian
Title: Re: Carbide tool help
Post by: Bill21 on December 11, 2021, 11:19:11 AM
Another thing seen on some commercial metal handled versions is a short side handle that comes out at 90°.

Title: Re: Carbide tool help
Post by: TimJester on December 12, 2021, 06:39:16 PM
Thanks to everyone for the advice and guidance, I will be returning the stuff and being a bit mechanically minded will try and make myself something, I'll let you know how I get on 😂
Title: Re: Carbide tool help
Post by: Bill21 on December 12, 2021, 09:48:49 PM
They aren’t difficult to make. For hollowing, the little 6mm cupped carbide inserts work well. I’ve found the best fasteners to use are Torx insert screws.