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Title: Chuck Hubs - views please
Post by: Dancie on March 13, 2021, 12:39:33 PM
In order to tidy my workshop, I’m thinking of buying some chuck hubs, I’ve come across two types, one supplied by Glenn Lucus the other by Axminster. There’s a difference in price, even with tax, exchange rate and delivery taken into consideration the Glenn Lucus hubs work out about £6 cheaper each – does anyone have any views on either please? There does seem to be more thread of the Axminster ones.
Title: Re: Chuck Hubs - views please
Post by: Dave Brookes on March 13, 2021, 01:05:23 PM
I think it was on here that I saw some made from hot melt glue which looked OK.  Can’t remember what was used as a release agent though.

Dave
Title: Re: Chuck Hubs - views please
Post by: Valkrider on March 13, 2021, 01:06:44 PM
Find someone locally with a 3D printer to print them for you the files are freely available on Thingiverse. Should cost a fraction of the metal ones and will work fine that is what I have done.
Title: Re: Chuck Hubs - views please
Post by: Bill21 on March 13, 2021, 01:46:59 PM
I’m all for keeping a workshop tidy but I find it hard to justify these things.
Do you really need or actually want to screw the Chuck on and off these things?  ::) They seem like an excellent way of parting those poor souls with obsessive compulsive disorder from their money. I only have one WT Chuck but I’ve got four or five MW chucks and they live in a steel cabinet when they’re not being used.
Title: Re: Chuck Hubs - views please
Post by: Valkrider on March 13, 2021, 02:53:43 PM
An alternative would be a suitable sized length of dowel (you could turn it yourself  ;) ) and just push on pull off.
Title: Re: Chuck Hubs - views please
Post by: bodrighywood on March 13, 2021, 03:10:06 PM
I keep mine hanging on dowels on the wall. Easy to access, out of harms way and apart from dust to blow off no harm to the threads. Never see the need for spending money unnecessarily LOl.

Pete
Title: Re: Chuck Hubs - views please
Post by: seventhdevil on March 13, 2021, 03:28:12 PM
My lathe is M33 3.5mm.

i bought a 1m length of threaded rod off ebay and cut it into 2 1/4" lengths and drilled two holes to hold them on the wall.

best thing i ever did to hold all my chucks and accessories.
Title: Re: Chuck Hubs - views please
Post by: Sandy on March 13, 2021, 06:21:21 PM
If I had a chuck hub I think I'd probably use two hands to remove / replace the chuck due to it's weight and value.  These would frustrate me for both the time and the hassle factors.

I also wonder if anyone that uses chuck hubs has found they start to 'cross-thread' the chuck onto the hub when replacing it?

So, like some folks above I don't see the necessity of these gizmos and just have 1/2" 3/4" dowel pegs glued at a sight upward angle into a board on the wall.  That way I can grip my chucks one-handed and simply pull or push the chuck off/on - so less risk of me dropping and damaging my chucks.

That's my thinking anyway.  ;)
Title: Re: Chuck Hubs - views please
Post by: bodrighywood on March 13, 2021, 06:23:56 PM
Every time I see some gizmo like this the skinflint in me asks two aquetions
1 Do I need / want this?
2 If yes can I make it

Pete
Title: Re: Chuck Hubs - views please
Post by: Sandy on March 13, 2021, 06:29:33 PM
Pete,

Likewise, and being a 'prudent' Scot, with several gadgets/gizmos about that I think might be useful my first thoughts are also to think 'home-turned/made' using wood, nylon etc. 
Title: Re: Chuck Hubs - views please
Post by: Dancie on March 14, 2021, 09:12:08 AM
Hello everyone, many thanks for all the replies, oddly some sound slightly irritated by my question  :) My chucks are in a drawer and I need that drawer for something else so I guess I'll make another shelf, the dowel idea is a good one though - no one seems to think the chuck hubs are the best idea since bread was sliced, the crossed thread did cross my mind and yes they are blooming expensive  - stay safe everyone - all the best.
Title: Re: Chuck Hubs - views please
Post by: bodrighywood on March 14, 2021, 10:03:28 AM
Personally I wasn't ittitated so much as bewildered by these. I had never heard of them, had to look them up and then couldn't understand why anyone would spend good money on something that just makes extra work. So many 'gadgets' that it would be impossible to live withlut out there LOL.

Pete
Title: Re: Chuck Hubs - views please
Post by: Bill21 on March 14, 2021, 04:04:35 PM
Apologies if it came over wrong, I wasn’t irritated either. Slightly confused why anyone would think they are a good idea though, irrespective of price. ;D I think a shelf at a slight angle with some dowels fitted would be a better idea.
Second picture down looks pretty good although the shelf could be narrower.
https://www.model-engineer.co.uk/forums/postings.asp?th=84378
Title: Re: Chuck Hubs - views please
Post by: Sandy on March 14, 2021, 05:01:26 PM
Hi Dancie,

Apologies if I came across negative.  I've just corrected my post as I checked and realised it was 3/4" dowel, not 1/2", that I used.  My lathe spindle  is M33 thread and my latest chuck is a heavy SK114, but isn't too heavy for the dowel solution, especially with the upward angled dowels, if you decide to go that route. 
Title: Re: Chuck Hubs - views please
Post by: Philip Green on March 14, 2021, 05:14:15 PM
Personally, I do not see the point in spending money on a chuck storage solution when it is easy enough to do it yourself. Suggestions of using dowels or threaded studding will do the job very well.

For a more sophisticating solution, have a look at Mike Waldt's youtube videos. His system is the dog's whatsits and provides storage for multiple chucks as well as jaw sets.
Title: Re: Chuck Hubs - views please
Post by: Twisted Trees on March 15, 2021, 12:45:57 AM
I have looked at various ways of storing my chucks and other spindle thread based items (nut based sanding disks, friction plates etc.) and decided the best place was in drawers where they will not get plastered in dust / shavings etc. I like drawers controllable spaces which stops me burying stuff with more stuff, and dust free storage as well, that is why I now have lots of them in the workshop :-) I think Chuck Hubs were designed for creating art installations not for sensible storage. Now if someone could just point me in the direction of the TARDIS drive to make my workshop bigger on the inside I will be sorted....
   
Title: Re: Chuck Hubs - views please
Post by: Dancie on March 15, 2021, 07:47:26 AM
Many thanks everyone - I'm told, but cant confirm, that the Axminster chuck hubs did run out at one point so somebody's buying them and the reviews are very complimentary - I'll stick to the shelf idea - all the best  :)
Title: Re: Chuck Hubs - views please
Post by: Bill21 on March 15, 2021, 11:32:34 AM
I’m sure I’ve seen an Axminster Chuck Hub used for something other than its original intended purpose but I can’t remember what that was now.
Title: Re: Chuck Hubs - views please
Post by: John on March 15, 2021, 12:53:35 PM
I use a chuck hub mounted sideways on a block of wood which is the clamped to the bench. This gives me an extra work station when turning not needed such as forming hollow barley twists and carving.
John
Title: Re: Chuck Hubs - views please
Post by: Derek on March 15, 2021, 04:20:48 PM
The advantage of a sloping shelf and pegs is that any shavings will fall off rather than collect on a standard shelf. I did look at the axminster ones and was put off by having to keep unscrewing the chucks from them
Title: Re: Chuck Hubs - views please
Post by: Twisted Trees on March 15, 2021, 05:46:51 PM
I use a chuck hub mounted sideways on a block of wood which is the clamped to the bench. This gives me an extra work station when turning not needed such as forming hollow barley twists and carving.
John

Both this and also mounted to a post that fits the banjo are good uses for the chuck hub. allows you to run your piece through 90° to work on it while keeping the chuck position solid.
 
Title: Re: Chuck Hubs - views please
Post by: The Bowler Hatted Turner on March 18, 2021, 08:24:09 AM
I put up a dedicated shelf for all of my chucks, the chucks are stored on any flat surface I can find in the workshop but the chuck shelf comes in handy for everything else!!
Title: Re: Chuck Hubs - views please
Post by: GordonSkipper on March 18, 2021, 12:26:59 PM
The only valid use for these, as far as I am concerned, is when using the chuck to hold a workpiece when working on it,  off the lathe i.e. carving, piercing etc. The hub is mounted horizontally so it helps visualise your work in its upright position. This function is mentioned by Axminster but hasn't been raised in this post so far. It also means that since  the workpiece and chuck are removed as one, thet can be put back on the lathe without any worriies of misalignment
Using  them just for storage is unnecessary expenditure and there are much more cost effective options, as already mentioned by others.
Title: Re: Chuck Hubs - views please
Post by: Bill21 on March 18, 2021, 02:16:19 PM
I use a chuck hub mounted sideways on a block of wood which is the clamped to the bench. This gives me an extra work station when turning not needed such as forming hollow barley twists and carving.
John

Yes, that’s a good idea John.

These seem to be less than half the price of the Axminster ones? No idea of postage though.

https://www.glennlucaswoodturning.com/product/hub-storage-for-chuck-and-faceplate/
Title: Re: Chuck Hubs - views please
Post by: Bill21 on March 24, 2021, 12:03:05 PM
As luck would have it I have a project that requires some additional work after turning. I’d like it to be fairly accurate and started thinking about possible jigs and then this thread popped into my head so I’ve just bought one of these Chuck hubs.  ;D
Thanks then to the OP for bringing this topic up or I may not have thought of it!  ;)
Title: Re: Chuck Hubs - views please
Post by: Lazurus on March 24, 2021, 01:02:32 PM
I keep mine in plastic paint pots with a lid, a dessicant bag and alls good
Title: Re: Chuck Hubs - views please
Post by: Dancie on March 24, 2021, 02:46:09 PM
Not that this really matters and I can't say that I've lost any sleep, and I do appreciate all the replies I received, you all gave me stuff to think about, but no one actually answered my original question  :) - I was really asking if anyone had any views on the difference between the Chuck hubs supplied by Glenn and Axminster.
Title: Re: Chuck Hubs - views please
Post by: Bill21 on March 24, 2021, 03:20:03 PM
Not that this really matters and I can't say that I've lost any sleep, and I do appreciate all the replies I received, you all gave me stuff to think about, but no one actually answered my original question  :) - I was really asking if anyone had any views on the difference between the Chuck hubs supplied by Glenn and Axminster.

Oh dear, we all seem to have missed that! Apologies again.  :)
Title: Re: Chuck Hubs - views please
Post by: Twisted Trees on March 24, 2021, 07:19:36 PM
Not that this really matters and I can't say that I've lost any sleep, and I do appreciate all the replies I received, you all gave me stuff to think about, but no one actually answered my original question  :) - I was really asking if anyone had any views on the difference between the Chuck hubs supplied by Glenn and Axminster.

As most don't have any and some have one for good reason or one brand, hope for comparison was a long stretch :-)
Title: Re: Chuck Hubs - views please
Post by: Bill21 on March 24, 2021, 07:52:38 PM
Looking at the pictures the GL ones don’t look as substantial as the Axminster ones. Probably ok just for parking chucks though. I’m confident the Axminster one delivered today will work well for supplementary work held in a Chuck.