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Title: Mystery chuck jaws?
Post by: crazylegs on September 01, 2019, 07:38:40 PM
Anyone got any ideas about these jaws? They have a shallow square sided grove machined in the face. What do they hold and how?
Title: Re: Mystery chuck jaws?
Post by: Derwent Woodturning club on September 01, 2019, 09:46:42 PM
I think you are looking at the rear face of the jaws and the shallow groove is to locate them accurately on the carriers. Also most holes are countersunk on the top face. Could you post a pic of the other side?
Title: Re: Mystery chuck jaws?
Post by: crazylegs on September 02, 2019, 11:45:13 AM
No this is the front face the other side has the narrower locating slot.
Title: Re: Mystery chuck jaws?
Post by: Twisted Trees on September 02, 2019, 12:10:00 PM
Still need more photo's from more angles, that one picture isn't helpful!
Title: Re: Mystery chuck jaws?
Post by: fuzzyturns on September 02, 2019, 01:19:20 PM
This could be set of jaws to mount your own large custom jaws made of wood or similar material. In theory you could mount your custom jaws straight onto mounting jaws, but the contact surface is quite limited, and would therefore allow for a relatively large degree of flexibility or inaccuracy, whereas with these, there would be a much larger contact surface. Just a guess, though.
Title: Re: Mystery chuck jaws?
Post by: burywoodturners on September 02, 2019, 06:05:14 PM
If the four jaws in the picture are part of the set then you have engineering jaws. and will close up to take a small drill.
I have the Axminster version and apart from being knuckle bashers they also stir up a draught!
Great for really small jobs but just watch your knuckes
Ron

Title: Re: Mystery chuck jaws?
Post by: The Bowler Hatted Turner on September 02, 2019, 07:16:54 PM
I don't think they are accessory mounting jaws that fuzzy suggested as there are not enough holes in the plates neither do I think they are the engineering jaws that burywoodturners has mentioned as they will not close up enough. But as the holes are not counter sunk or counter drilled I would assume they are custom made. They may be for opening into a metal ring that fixes onto the bottom of a turning. Have a look at the ring to see if it is dovetailed.
Title: Re: Mystery chuck jaws?
Post by: Sandy on September 03, 2019, 11:17:55 PM
Hi crazylegs,

Yep, I can see where Fuzzyturns is coming from, potentially agree but also with Twisted Trees that additional images are needed. Do you know / are the jaws stamped with the manufacturer name and what is the overall diameter?

In other words, more info needed!
Title: Re: Mystery chuck jaws?
Post by: crazylegs on September 22, 2019, 07:45:33 PM
I know its been a while but here are some more pictures, both sides and edge. No markings, no countersinks.
Title: Re: Mystery chuck jaws?
Post by: The Bowler Hatted Turner on September 23, 2019, 11:09:21 PM
Looks like they may have been intended to grip a bowl ring.
Title: Re: Mystery chuck jaws?
Post by: crazylegs on September 24, 2019, 10:52:11 PM
not sure what that is. Any pictures?
Title: Re: Mystery chuck jaws?
Post by: fuzzyturns on September 25, 2019, 02:49:49 PM
The strange thing is that the circular recess on one side is in line with it's position on the jaws, i.e. it forms a ring. On the other side that recess is of a completely different diameter, and will only form segments of a ring if the jaws are wide, wide open. Doesn't make any sense to me.
Title: Re: Mystery chuck jaws?
Post by: crazylegs on September 25, 2019, 08:51:41 PM
yes the narrower and in my mind the most likely to be the recess that fits to the chuck would mean the chuck would have to be open. The circular recess would then not be circular? I can see no way these could be used. My logic is telling me they can not work.
They are well made and appear to be of good quality and came with a job lot of jaws for a nova chuck. All the others are 'normal' these are the weird ones.
Title: Re: Mystery chuck jaws?
Post by: Woodcrafts on September 25, 2019, 09:19:05 PM
Could they be adaptor plates to allow one make of jaws to be used on another manufacurers jaws, possibly to use Nova jaws, which have a raised fillet to fit in slots in the jaw carriers of a Nova chuck onto an Axminster chuck which has the raised fillet on the jaw carriers to engage in slots in the actual jaws? This would need the securing screw holes to be the same for each make of chuck so I may be completely wrong. But the shape and dept of the slot would not be sufficient to hold a piece of timber on their own.
Title: Re: Mystery chuck jaws?
Post by: The Bowler Hatted Turner on September 25, 2019, 10:26:45 PM
Is it the photograph or is the large groove dovetail shaped?
Title: Re: Mystery chuck jaws?
Post by: crazylegs on September 26, 2019, 09:36:38 AM
It is the photo. It is square sided.
Title: Re: Mystery chuck jaws?
Post by: Paul Hannaby on September 27, 2019, 01:30:38 AM
If you can't figure out what they are for, it's a pretty safe bet that you don't need them!  ;)
Title: Re: Mystery chuck jaws?
Post by: The Bowler Hatted Turner on September 27, 2019, 08:51:51 AM
If you can't figure out what they are for, it's a pretty safe bet that you don't need them!  ;)
No no I disagree Paul,you obviously need them but you just have to work out why! ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Mystery chuck jaws?
Post by: crazylegs on September 27, 2019, 03:38:32 PM
I must need them , I will just put them on the large shelf with all the other stuff I must need !! ???
Title: Re: Mystery chuck jaws?
Post by: Bryan Milham on October 04, 2019, 08:17:02 PM
I'll throw in a suggestion, could they be converter plates from say Axminster style jaws to SuperNova/Vicmark style jaws.

The Toolpost's Versa Chuck allows you to buy carriers for both types of jaw, maybe this was another makers/companies solution.
Title: Re: Mystery chuck jaws?
Post by: crazylegs on October 19, 2019, 09:19:04 PM
that makes sense. Now to find what they convert the supernova to?
Title: Re: Mystery chuck jaws?
Post by: Woodcrafts on October 19, 2019, 09:59:29 PM
As I mentioned in my earlier post, I would guess they are converters from Nova to Axminster, since Nova use a recess as the locating groove whereas Axminster use a raised ridge for that purpose.
Title: Re: Mystery chuck jaws?
Post by: crazylegs on October 20, 2019, 01:17:14 PM
thanks, somehow I missed your post. It makes sense.