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General Category => Tool tips & reviews => Topic started by: Derek on June 10, 2019, 03:56:47 PM
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Going on from Twisted Trees post about tool racks would people like to share either homemade rack and or jigs they have made to aid them when turning.
I will start off with the chisel racks and a router holder, there is a depth collar which is adjustable by the black star knob but not shown in this photo.
Total cast zero as I have loads of offcuts from other projects as it is a hobby cost of labour zero
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Excellent plan, lots of ideas to pinch :)
Mk 1 tool rack, upper and lower note the hole cut through on the upper rack for the oversize ring gouge which just wouldn't fit! No jigs as yet, but picture one shows my home made lamp boring drill, a drill bit welded to a T of threaded bar (it's what I had!)
And lathe end cabinet with holes to hang 4 chisels in a work area for calipers etc. drawers for chucks live centres etc. and rails for the tailstock to sit on, height is set so that it is below the lathe bed and out of my way. not shown in the photo, but the bowl saver hangs on the back of this unit too.
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As I was in the workshop with my phone I thought I would do an actual picture of this tool. it is a 10mm drill bit welded to a T shape of steel bar, I used 8mm threaded bar as I had it lying around I then simply covered the t with some wooden handles to make it more comfortable to hold. it can bore a 14" hole which covers all my table lamp needs but you can obviously make it to suit your needs.
The difficult bit was lining it all up, for this I drilled an 8mm hole through a piece of wood, then drilled half way with the 10mm before cutting it in half with the bandsaw. clamped the 2 bits of metal into the wood jig and welded them. Obviously it was a single use jig!
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Hi All,
I thought you might like to see my Heath Robinson
saw stop on my table saw sled.
This is the Mk1 version, the Mk2 will be along
between 1 and 20 years!!!
It's fairly self explanatory and it works to either
the left or right of the blade.
It's extremely accurate, believe it or not.....
Next time, I promise, I will NOT be cutting the
slot myself from square aluminium. Although
the table saw went through it like a hot knife and
butter, it is then the devil's job to smooth out
the edges that it leaves hidden underneath.
And here's a bit of advice for anyone thinking
of drilling a hole in the calipers - don't bother,
it is made of God only knows what !!!! I ended
up gluing it with Araldite, in fact, deciding how
to attach the calipers was the most difficult
part.
Hope you are impressed and looking
forward to any comments that want to
come my way !!!
Best wishes - Jim
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Jim I daresay the saw blade wobbles enough to make the verniers less accurate than you think.
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Jim I daresay the saw blade wobbles enough to make the verniers less accurate than you think.
Accuracy in a product that moves with humidity is a moot point, I would hazard a guess that it is closer than a tape measure and more convenient than a steel rule.
It is a nice jig I no longer have a table saw, though my aging eyesight likes digital readout options so I may consider a variation on this theme for my router table.
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Thanks for the responses BHT and Twisted.....
It's not what I would call 'my design', but more
an amalgamation of ideas that I had seen.
Like most jigs, mine was going to be the most elegant,
attractive and accurate of all jigs !!!! Sadly, although
it works extremely well, I must admit that it's a bit
of a bodge.... well it's a lot of a bodge!!! I started
to lose the fight for elegance when I tried so hard and
failed miserably, to drill a hole in the calipers.
Trying to secure this strangely shaped item caused
me a huge amount of time, and by the time I had it
down, I was fairly cheesed off with the whole thing.
So, big tip here for anyone thinking of attaching
calipers to anything,find a way to get a hole in it...it'll
save so much time and energy.
BTW, just while I'm on here.....what would be the
correct way to drill the hole, the caliper says it
is hardened......advice please, thanks
Thanks again for the replies chaps
Best wishes - Jim
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If you can't drill it grind it... ;D
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Hi Twisted, thanks for the reply.
I know very little of metalwork and would'nt
have thought of that idea. I was attacking it with
HSS drills which did'nt even scratch the surface.
I try to learn something every day, so thanks
best wishes - Jim
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Well due to recovering after a hospital visit I completed a jaw rack which seemed to take forever compared to before.
This is complete but yet to be screwed to the wall but it will give an idea how I will store mine I have left an empty row at the top just incase, I still need to look at the cole jaws but for the moment they are OK where they are.
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When I was working on the bench we used to say that joiners and woodmachinists were probably the laziest of workers, if there was a job that needed doing and you could make a jig to make it easier we would, sometime makeing the jig would take longer than the actual job!! I still work the same way today, my workshop is full of odd bits of wood attached to another piece that was used as a jig on a certain job, I keep them in the hope that if that type of job comes round again I can make it quicker and easier but usually that never happens.
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I'm refreshing this topic because the other posts here have been inspirational in making my new gouge/chisel tool-rack. It demonstrates to me what a fantastic resource this forum provides! 8)
The tool-rack shown here is very simple and consists of two 20mm iron pipes (electrical conduit left over from another project) held in place by two wedge-shaped pieces of 12mm plywood each drilled with two 20mm diameter holes (35mm apart) to hold the pipes in place to support the wooden handles of the chisels and gouges. The plywood wedges are simply screwed via some other scraps of wood to the OSB lining the wall of the workshop. To complete the rack two 24" (610mm) and one 18" (457mm) magnetic tool racks have been screwed to the OSB wall via some 30mm x 18mm roofing battens.
Advantages include:
- Maximum number of tools accommodated in the given space (useful in a small workshop)
- Tools clearly visible
- Tools easily removed and replaced
- No special spaces required all accommodated in the same system
- Rack easily modified by moving magnetic tool holders
(https://www.pettigrews.org.uk/awgb-forum/lathe-tool-rack2.jpg)
This shows the rack as designed
(https://www.pettigrews.org.uk/awgb-forum/IMG_7238ad.jpg)
This shows the rack in use
Hope this is useful!
Tim
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I use those magnetic strips for smaller items and now have a number of magnetic tools and pieces of equipment LOL.
Pete
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The problem with using magnets to hold turning tools is that it can magnetise the tool which can then cause drag on the tool rest. I use a lot of magnetic holders, dishes, strips etc in the workshop but never for turning tools.
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I don't use them fpr the actually turning tools but have calipers, spanners, pliers etc all on them as they are handy. Have one on the latrhe for the chuck key, a bowl on top for the drives and centres I am using etc.
Pete
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the only reason they will magnetise will be if they are scraped on the magnetic surface.
if you are careful and pick them off they should stay nonmagnetic.
so i'm told anyway.
i use mag strips for all my flat stock tools.
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Tim when I made my tool racks shown at the start of this thread I used french cleats to hang them on the wall meaning that it is easy to relocate them if needed.
Since starting this thread I have another couple of jigs one I have shown somewhere and that is the earing stand hole drilling jig and the other is just a simple but plain doughnut jig but I made three different front plates to accommodate different jobs.
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I have to say that I agree with Mark's comments, less than desirable to have magnetised turning tools. I picked up a secondhand set of thread chasers a while back and they wer magnetised, not easy to use. Luckily a friend has a de-gaussing (?) device so managed to sort it for me.
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Hello all, This will demagnetise gouges - https://www.axminster.co.uk/wiha-magnetiser-de-magnetiser-100302
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This is my main tool rack. The initial version was wall mounted behind the lathe, but firstly I had to reach over the lathe to get a tool, which is dangerous, and more importantly, it blocked my view out of the window. So this new version is mounted on a piece of kitchen counter top with coasters underneath, and I can roll it around the workshop. Note the protruding fingers at the sides, preventing tools from falling off, and the slot for the small parting tool.
Whatever doesn't fit into this rack is stored in the top drawer of a kitchen cupboard, also mounted on coasters, where the other two drawers hold all sorts of accessories, including my bowl saver kit and numerous jam chucks, sanding paper, etc. On top of that cubboard is mounted my Tormek slow grinder, and on the side hangs my selfmade steady rest (pictures to follow).
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It would be nice to have a workshop big enough to roll things around. I have operated for the last 35 years or so in a workshop that is 16 feet square. At times it looks like a bomb has hit it and then I have a tidy up and spend the next 6 months looking for things. :-[ :-[ :-[
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Most of my things roll around, so I can maximise the space I have. Which, admittedly, is more than 16 square feet. More like 30' x 10'.
Mind you, I had to buy the house and property that came with it, so it didn't come cheap.
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Most of my things roll around, so I can maximise the space I have. Which, admittedly, is more than 16 square feet. More like 30' x 10'.
Mind you, I had to buy the house and property that came with it, so it didn't come cheap.
As mine is pretty much the same I have to assume that it is the difference between the totally dedicated poverty stricken professionals and the rich, well apointed hobby turner.
(that is said in jest)
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Ooh, that's quite a jab, Pete. But I can see where it comes from. And I am not taking it the wrong way. I haven't started out in life as a wood turner, I got to it quite late. However, I am quite committed. And I do realize that when I make it my full time occupation that money will be one of the harder things to come by. And for that reason I also decided that while I still have a well paid day job, I would use it to give me the best possible starting position. I hope you don't mind.
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A joke that I use regularly at demos Fuzzy. Certainly not personal LOL.
Pete
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Here are few pics of some of my homemade jigs.
When I moved into the current workshop, there was a deWalt radial arm saw there, which only needed a little TLC but is otherwise rock solid. The mitre jig gets clamped onto the table of the saw and I use to cut most of my segments for rings.
The swivel milling jig is made to be clamped onto the tooling platform of my engineering mill and allows me to precisely mill out slots. Very useful for cutting the mortices for legs into segmented rings to make a stand (and other things, too).
The drill jig is meant to be clamped onto the lathe bed and provide a stable platform to drill holes into blanks for candlesticks, scoops, etc, which don't have a tenon to hold them by (or which are too long).
Any questions or feedback, fire away.
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I do like to see other people's jigs. Thanks Fuzzy.
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Doing a job today that needed me to part the work off but with a proviso that I may have to mount it again at a later time, so I needed to be able to centre it. So I made a wooden bell punch, look them up on the internet. I had an old stainless steel plumbob weight that acts as the point.Centres true every time.
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These are the cupboards I made for my chisels & pro edge gear plus lathe bits & pieces. I've used magnetic bars under veneer to hold the chisels, previously I'd use the same bars on an open rack for years & never had a problem with chisels becoming magnetised, though as previously mentioned I've only ever placed them on & never scraped them across the magnet.
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Blimey that's a bit posh innit LOL
Pete
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Very nice cabinets Doug what it must be like to have the wall space to hang them
Blimey that's a bit posh innit LOL
Pete
That is what I thought but did not want to accuse Doug of being posh ;D ;D ;D
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Very nice cabinets Doug what it must be like to have the wall space to hang themBlimey that's a bit posh innit LOL
Pete
That is what I thought but did not want to accuse Doug of being posh ;D ;D ;D
Well I don’t remember anyone ever calling me posh :o but thanks chaps ;D ;D
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Not you the cabinets LOL.
Pete
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Not you the cabinets LOL.
Pete
Hell I’ll settle for that Pete ;D ;D
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Heres my current set up, built into the wall
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Nice picture, but are you really running belt-drive machinery without any protective covers?
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Nice picture, but are you really running belt-drive machinery without any protective covers?
This lathe is under construction as I design and build my own lathes to suit what I want. Here I am currently fitting the drive [VFD] and getting the belts sorted etc. This has been on the go for awhile, but never finished due to the lack of space or should I say the poor use of the space I have.
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you've a fair few tools there Hughie...
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Quote from Bowler Hatted turner
It would be nice to have a workshop big enough to roll things around. I have operated for the last 35 years or so in a workshop that is 16 feet square. At times it looks like a bomb has hit it and then I have a tidy up and spend the next 6 months looking for things.
Reminds me of past life when I was in gainful employment may years ago the status symbol was a brief case ( well before I pads and mobile phones) and us young bucks wanted a double sides combination lock in burgundy leather all singing and dancing case to look the part , a wise old timer said the bigger the brief case the more C---P you carry .
I now know I need downsize my workshop as can never find what I just put down or is that something else coming on . The fun of being a turner
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here's my load of mess in the corner of a joinery. i've an area 10'x10' to reside in which is just enough to work in.
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you can just see my tool rack for anything other than flatstock behind the headstock of the lathe.
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This is the Turning Tool Rack I made some years ago. Can’t upload pictures to this website so here’s a link.
https://imgur.com/gallery/QVhUrKM
No glue or screws, just held together with wedges.
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This is the Turning Tool Rack I made some years ago. Can’t upload pictures to this website so here’s a link.
https://imgur.com/gallery/QVhUrKM
No glue or screws, just held together with wedges.
(https://i.imgur.com/J6KY65X.jpg)
My memory isn't good enough for that sort of rack anymore, I need to see the blade not remember where it is stored! I do have a 4 tool rack of similar idea for the tools I am actually using, I can remember where 3 things are most of the time...
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The issue for me is that it’s free standing in the workshop as I don’t have wall or bench space for it. Having sharp tips pointing upwards is just asking for an nasty accident so I won’t do that. As it is so open though I can easily see the cutting edge to make my tool selection and I recognise many of my favourite tools by the handle anyway.
I have actually seen someone putting a code on the very end of their tools for a similar purpose but I’ve not needed to do it yet.
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Gosh that's a really clever design Bill :)
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Thanks, here are the part, all 9mm Birch Ply.
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Quick and simple one, Axminster Lathe users and others if appropriate, you have a pin that locks the chuck, CA glue a neodymium magnet on the outboard end, and stick it on the headstock it is more often where you think you left it that way!
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Im not sure if other models have it but my Axminster 1416VS came with a magnet already fixed to the pin.
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Not a rack but may be of interest. It keeps my most used Woodturning bits all in one place.
The plywood “shelf” with holes in it keeps stuff from getting lost.