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General Category => Tool tips & reviews => Topic started by: David J. Ross on October 15, 2015, 12:13:28 PM
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Could anyone please advise
I have been asked to replace the rollers on a mangle/wringer that is over a 100 years old
What I would like to know is what kind of wood would have been on the original mangle
Any help would be appreciated
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Hi David, my Grandfather used to make mangle rollers many moons ago, he used hornbeam then I am not sure of the availability now though.
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Have a look here (http://www.associatedtimber.co.uk/products-services/stock-items/hornbeam), don't know cost but worth a look perhaps?
Pete
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Thanks Steve & bodrighywood for information
Went into wood shed and found some Greenheart think this will do
It is not that easy to get Hornbeam up this way though I have had some
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what size do you need?
i have some hornbeam, sycamore, beech and lignum was also used.
pete associated hardwoods went under...
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what size do you need?
i have some hornbeam, sycamore, beech and lignum was also used.
pete associated hardwoods went under...
Didn't know that, they were a good source of some different woods. Boddys have gone as well........Who's left?
Pete
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mac timbers have gone too.
there are a few places but you have to be in the know to find them.
i just keep searching the net.
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Mac
mac timbers have gone too.
there are a few places but you have to be in the know to find them.
i just keep searching the net.
He has moved a couple of miles up the road and should be in buisness again soon.
john
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would be nice to hear but he's put his mill up for sale, does he have more than one mill?
http://arbtrader.arbtalk.co.uk/listing/pezzolato-hd7-timber-queen-mill-for-sale/
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I thought that had already been sold and left the yard I will have to ask him.
No that is his only one as he doesnt have room for it at the new place but he has over 100 trees already slabbed and drying to cut up for blanks etc.
john
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I always thought they were made of more water resilient timber, like Pitch pine. The problem is they suffer such a lot of water it's difficult to identify the grain.
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I was trying to remember what the rollers on my Mum's wringer were made of, but then I remembered she went upmarket and bought an Acme Wringer, and that had rubber rollers!
I know, that was no help at all.
Ron
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i think it was whatever the company could get their hands on as i've seen elm, ash, oak, hornbeam, lignum, mahogany, sycamore, beech and cherry.
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Thanks to all that replied I met Alec Mutch who used to have Ullapool woodturning centre and he said he had done one or two over his turning life
Alec said I would have to strip rollers down as it is a possibility that there could be a square metal box in centre of rollers and would have to laminate the wood around it
Andy Walters who runs Black Isle woodturning centre and Alec both reckoned Maple would do
Will have to get over to see this mangle and get it stripped down
Thanks again for all your advice
David :D ;) :D ;)
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the square sounds right, i bought a lignum roller from ebay and it has a square hole running the length of it to provide drive.
maple is perfect.
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The larger mangles had square bars. I repaired one for earlswood museum only last year this had a square bar through it with metal washers on the ends. The bar was not very straight so the sq. hole needed some play to enable me to get the bar through. I was lucky this was only going to be for display so I jointed two grooved blocks together giving me a square hole. The originals were in a solid piece a much more difficult proposition.
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it must have been a hell of a tool or machine to get the square hole through the lignum roller i bought off ebay.
would they use a long pole with teeth on it that turns into a square at one end and just pull it through using brute force??? the roller is 5-6" diameter.
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I believe its a process of using a broach pressing the broach thru a proper sized hole until the shape is correct.
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I believe its a process of using a broach pressing the broach thru a proper sized hole until the shape is correct.
In the same way as rifling is put in a gun barrel, and an amazing thing to watch done.
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I believe its a process of using a broach pressing the broach thru a proper sized hole until the shape is correct.
In the same way as rifling is put in a gun barrel, and an amazing thing to watch done.
You learn something new every day... Hadn't previously heard of the term.
I know it's relating to metalwork broaching but the Wikipedia article https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broaching_(metalworking) (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broaching_(metalworking)) is quite enlightening and I'm sure the same principles apply.
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Sorry to steal the thread but I'm an exServiceman who still works to support those serving their country,
This is the baby I look after https://www.google.co.uk/search?newwindow=1&safe=off&rlz=1C1AVNG_enGB613GB613&es_sm=122&biw=1280&bih=743&tbm=isch&q=as90+firing&revid=755968998&sa=X&ved=0CCUQ1QJqFQoTCMuU196S1MgCFcQ7PgodtWoEwQ (https://www.google.co.uk/search?newwindow=1&safe=off&rlz=1C1AVNG_enGB613GB613&es_sm=122&biw=1280&bih=743&tbm=isch&q=as90+firing&revid=755968998&sa=X&ved=0CCUQ1QJqFQoTCMuU196S1MgCFcQ7PgodtWoEwQ)
Yes, it is a Gun, not a Tank.
We had some barrels made a couple of years back, amazing to see the craftsmanship involved, some can only be learnt at the hands of a master, like using a huge hydraulic ram, putting an upward curve in the barrel (to overcome the droop caused by only being supported one end) which is done by 'eye'.
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im still selling timber and will have lots up for sale in the near future