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General Category => Websites, Videos & other sources of interest => Topic started by: Steve Jones on March 02, 2015, 07:46:22 PM
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Ok, I am not sure if this is of interest to you all but I have made these while working on jobs so they are exactly how I work and not made especially for the video. I thought you might like to share them.
Please note they are not tutorials and my methods may be a little different to others. Please do not attempt to copy them unless you are an experianced turner and confident in your ability.
Any questions are welcomed I will try to answer them but please be patient as I don't always have time to log on.
The quality is not the best as I am not used to making videos and filmed using my phone.
I hope you enjoy them
http://youtu.be/IU_jt_pgUjA this is making a pine newel ball cap to match
http://youtu.be/3b9h2UI_0SI this is making a pine Coffee Table leg
http://youtu.be/MkPb_VFiGAM this is making hardwood handles
http://youtu.be/lcELk5Z840Q this is making a beech box finial
http://youtu.be/Yh3l4fPHD88 this is making my off center watch stand base with standard chuck
http://youtu.be/2yX1T3uYIZo this is making a stair spindle
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Just viewed the first video....always good to see such fluent technique with a skew; you are obviously very comfortable with this tool. Will view the rest when I have more time.
Thanks for posting them...Les
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I agree with Les. You are a real master of the skew.
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Watched them all and all I can say is there is a man who knows his stuff.
Regards George
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Absolutely brilliant. An object lesson for anyone who wants to master the skew.
At what stage in your 35 years could you claim to have mastered what some regard as the devil to use?
Does anyone else use sandpaper that way?
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Hello Steve,
Thank you for posting these woodturning Videos it shows what you can do with years of practice with the skew.
Regards John
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Well done Steve, a fine demonstration of a craftsman at work. I particularly like making the stair spindle, just a few repetitious measurements and then the rest turned accurately by eye.Good for you.
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Thank you for your comments it is much appreciated.
George thank you for your comments on you tube.
Tony, the skew was the first tool I was made to use as an apprentice, my Grandfather always said master the skew first and the other tools become easier to master. I had to turn straight stool rails for 6 months and if they were slightly too loose or tight then Grandad would throw them in the fire box. I would say it was 5-6 years before I could use it efficiently and 9-10 years before I had mastered it to the degree I could make every cut to the depth I wanted and repeat it over and over again reducing the need of using callipers in many cases.
As for the use of sandpaper that is just the way I was taught and it is now so natural I don't give it a thought.
Grandad always said that the way you turn is not the most important but accuracy and speed is most important for a production turner, these methods have been used by my family for 300 years and while they work for me please don't take that as the way it must be done. I would say that he did make me use all tools with the hand on top of the tool as a safety issue saying it stops it being thrown towards your face if a problem is encountered and I see soo many turners using the underhand method. How were others taught and what is everyone's opinion on that?
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I originally learned to turn at school using old files that were sharpened down to scrapers and variations on the skew. OK a bad practice I definitely wouldn't do now but it meant that learn to turn using very basic tools. As a pro much of my work is spindle work and so the skew really comes into it's own. many things I make only use a skew and I have sort of collected various shapes and sizes, most in fact carbon steel. I wouldn't profess to be as skilled as shown in the videos but have to say I agree that it is perhaps the most under rated tool we have.
pete
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Pete, that brings back memories. Grandad made a few tools from old files he said the steel was better, this was before HSS. He also tempered his own tools using the open fire, I tried it but ended up with pig iron that wouldn't keep it's edge.
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We had some very strange looking tools thinking back. The teacher used to grind them all into different shapes for different uses but basically most were files. I also remember doing some finer work (or so it seemed to a 14 year old LOL) using bench chisels. H&S then was "If you hurt yourself it's your own stupid fault for being careless" I think that the files we had (I am talking about the 60's) were possibly a lot more usable than the ones we have today but still wouldn't recommend it. When I want to get a really good finish and save money on abrasives now I still use the carbon steel skews as even with woods like pine I can get a much better finish.
Pete
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I confess to still having, in the dark recesses of oone of my tool boxes, a chisel ground from an old file. :o :o :o Apprenticed as a joiner/woodmachinist part of my training involved learning how to turn. Turns out (no pun intended) that this must have been company specific as none of my contemporaries had the same training. Taught to turn using just 3 or 4 tools makes me wonder why I have so many today?
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About a week ago I had a student here and as always I tell students to bring along any tools they have so that I can check them for profile and sharpness.
He had just bought and old second hand home made lathe and about a dozen tools made from old files.When I explained to him the dangers of using old files he told me he had already broken two.
I think I have convinced him that it would be better to invest in a good set of tools from Crown tools.
I think he will also invest in a modern variable speed lathe.
I am convinced that a lot of would be turners give up because they buy unsuitable second hand lathe's and tools and instead of having tuition try and teach themselves and find it is not as easy as it looks.
You obviously had a very good teacher Steve
Regards George
Regards George
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watched all the videos,its great to see the skew used with such great skill and speed at the same time and all the work looked really nice to,I hope more people will watch your videos and have a go at using the skew,to many people are scared of such a marvelous tool,Regards,
Eric.
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About a week ago I had a student here and as always I tell students to bring along any tools they have so that I can check them for profile and sharpness.
He had just bought and old second hand home made lathe and about a dozen tools made from old files.When I explained to him the dangers of using old files he told me he had already broken two.
I think I have convinced him that it would be better to invest in a good set of tools from Crown tools.
I think he will also invest in a modern variable speed lathe.
I am convinced that a lot of would be turners give up because they buy unsuitable second hand lathe's and tools and instead of having tuition try and teach themselves and find it is not as easy as it looks.
You obviously had a very good teacher Steve
Regards George
Regards George
if they are giving up at that stage then they don't have what it takes anyway in my opinion.
it's fairly easy to teach yourself.
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I'm glad I asked the questions. The answers are really enlightening and much as I expected. Sandpapering apart! You must be very proud of your 300 year tradition.
The hobbiest is unlikely to experience such rigorous training.
However when I was learning and struggling with beads I was told to practice over and over again until I'd done 50 or was it 500?
I was quite successful with the skew from day one and instinctively realised it is basically planing. It was later on that I experienced spiralling.
I started turning ahead of my retirement in 1990. It has been a useful hobby with plenty of ups and downs. One of the worst that sticks in my mind was struggling with an ash bowl that was badly out of balance due to offset heartwood. I enjoy making mushrooms and my wife takes great pleasure in giving them away.
Thank you again.
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Tony,
Great to hear you practiced doing beads. It is practice that makes perfect the more you turn the more comfortable you feel
Being a professional I'm not so sure about giving mushrooms away :)
George like you I learnt using just four tools and was told that is all you need to do everything. We just love tools though. Tools have evolved and we buy them because they make the job easier but I think we have too many.
Tony 500 beads is not a lot the picture below shows 100 spindles I turned for a set in the BBC TV drama 'the secret of Crickley Hall' and that is 2,400 beads in one job.
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Brilliant videos Steve, great to see a master at work. Thank you for sharing.
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Thank you Mark, a true complement coming from a woodturner as acomplished as yourself.
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Hi Steve
I'm always interested to see how others do things - especially when they know what they're doing!
Nice to see another Wadkin still in regular use. What is yours, an RS8 or 10? I can't tell from the video. I confess to being a little envious of your 2 banjos and long metal tool rest. My wooden one is good but I'd love a second proper banjo and long rest.
Cheers
Richard
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Richard, I have the RS10 and love it. I had the long rest made by a local metal worker and have several of various lengths upto 54" would be lost without them.
I think your only chance of getting another banjo now is maybe on EBay.
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Hi Steve
Can't beat a Wadkin! I do periodically check ebay, but no luck yet!
All the best
Richard
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I consider myself fairly well skilled with the skew, but I can see from your videos that I'm not to production speed or standards, maybe with another 20 years of practice...
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OK! last one for a while but I was looking at youtube and there are very few videos of a hand turned newel post so, as I make them all the time, I tried to video one. My phone has a small memory so I could not quite video it all, it cut of just at the end, sadly for me the most interesting part when I cut off with the lathe still running.
The video is at
https://youtu.be/MO9QpiEl4Io
The post was one of three for this particular job
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Keep em coming Steve I could watch you all day and never get bored
Regards George