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Title: Preventing worm attack
Post by: Les Symonds on May 30, 2020, 06:24:51 AM
What methods do you use to prevent worm attack in your timber store? The only significant method that I use is to douse green timber with a borax solution  before putting it into stick, so I'm interested in what anyone else has tried.
Les
Title: Re: Preventing worm attack
Post by: Tim Pettigrew on May 30, 2020, 07:53:08 AM
Hi Les
Yes I use Borax which has certainly worked for me. The only problem I have had with that is it's incompatibility with PVA used to coat end grain and green turnings.  I now use EndSeal instead which is incidentally much more effective than using PVA or paint and is fine with Borax.
Hope this is helpful.
Tim
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Title: Re: Preventing worm attack
Post by: bodrighywood on May 30, 2020, 08:46:03 AM
If by orevent you mean kill any in a piece of wood there are proprietary potions you can use. They work for me but I give several coats to make sure. Alternatively deepfreeze fpr a few days or microwave if the piece ios smll enough. Most of the various types of isect prefer damp wood so  keeping your wood as dry as possible helps to stop it spreading as well.

Pete
Title: Re: Preventing worm attack
Post by: Les Symonds on May 30, 2020, 11:52:35 AM
If by orevent you mean kill any in a piece of wood there are proprietary potions you can use. They work for me but I give several coats to make sure. Alternatively deepfreeze fpr a few days or microwave if the piece ios smll enough. Most of the various types of isect prefer damp wood so  keeping your wood as dry as possible helps to stop it spreading as well.

Pete
....I'm thinking more along the lines of preventing the little critters getting into my timber stock in the slab and in the log!
Title: Re: Preventing worm attack
Post by: bodrighywood on May 30, 2020, 11:57:53 AM
If you haven't gpt any kind of infestation and keep the wood in the dry you should be OK. Avoid mixing dry wood with amny that has mould, rot etc as the soft damp wood attracts the beetles in the first place.

Pete
Title: Re: Preventing worm attack
Post by: Bryan Milham on May 30, 2020, 01:18:07 PM
A dry store and Spiders. My Woodstock is full of them. Anything flying in there finds their webs fairly quickly.

Okay, this answer is a bit tounge in cheek.
Title: Re: Preventing worm attack
Post by: Les Symonds on May 30, 2020, 02:19:38 PM
A dry store and Spiders. My Woodstock is full of them. Anything flying in there finds their webs fairly quickly.

Okay, this answer is a bit tounge in cheek.
...that's a shame, I was going to ask you to send me some spiders!
Title: Re: Preventing worm attack
Post by: Bryan Milham on May 30, 2020, 02:52:09 PM
I'm quite sure Welsh spiders are just as happy eating flying things as my British ones
Title: Re: Preventing worm attack
Post by: seventhdevil on May 31, 2020, 04:26:00 PM
i don't keep timbers that the worms like...

that usually does the job.
Title: Re: Preventing worm attack
Post by: Paul Hannaby on May 31, 2020, 05:59:36 PM
I remember reading somewhere (may have been Tobias Kaye) that a good way to deal with the problem is to hang a bunch of fresh hazel twigs in the workshop, which attracts any bugs, then before next spring throw it out or burn it and repeat the process.
Title: Re: Preventing worm attack
Post by: michaelb on May 31, 2020, 10:15:07 PM
If Paul is right it my guess is it should be "Witch Hazel" to work a magic spell ..
Title: Re: Preventing worm attack
Post by: Paul Hannaby on June 01, 2020, 12:54:51 AM
I think its much simpler than that - fresh wood has a high moisture content so is attractive to the bugs.
Title: Re: Preventing worm attack
Post by: bodrighywood on June 01, 2020, 08:43:03 AM
I think its much simpler than that - fresh wood has a high moisture content so is attractive to the bugs.
also a softer wood and they prefer that tp the hard woods though I have noticed oak burrs seem to attract one type. There are dozens of different ones.

Pete
Title: Re: Preventing worm attack
Post by: Les Symonds on June 01, 2020, 09:22:18 AM
Plenty of good info coming through here....thanks everyone, for the input.
Les
Title: Re: Preventing worm attack
Post by: crazylegs on June 01, 2020, 06:09:13 PM
When in Austria all the museums had acorns in any wooded items. Apparently any wood worm was attracted more to the acorns than the timber. I tried this when I got home, no worms in the timber but none in the acorns either. so the jury is still out. Sort of makes sense(ish).
Title: Re: Preventing worm attack
Post by: bodrighywood on June 01, 2020, 06:23:38 PM
Did a bit of research (https://howtogetridof.net/woodworm/natural-repellents-against-woodworm/) and apparently vinegar and lemon juice will repel the beetles as will boric acid and rosemary oil. Also the insects don't like aromatic plants so a load of those in your woodshed could be the answer
Title: Re: Preventing worm attack
Post by: Les Symonds on June 01, 2020, 08:07:39 PM
Did a bit of research (https://howtogetridof.net/woodworm/natural-repellents-against-woodworm/) and apparently vinegar and lemon juice will repel the beetles as will boric acid and rosemary oil. Also the insects don't like aromatic plants so a load of those in your woodshed could be the answer
....my woodshed is adjacent to the herb patch....could be handy!
Title: Re: Preventing worm attack
Post by: Derek on June 04, 2020, 09:41:28 AM
As Pauls answer put a wood in there that they prefer over others and periodically remove and burn not forgetting to replace that wood