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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: woody on January 16, 2013, 04:46:14 PM
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Well the end of my turning is here I have just been to the doc and been told that I have left ventrical failure that showed up on a heart scan and I have been told I should give up woodturning and stop doing anything Manuel and not to go out in the cold so that is it for me but to be honest I'm not surprised I have had my suspicions now for a while that is why I started model making I find turning very tiring and painful which turns out to be heart failure well it was good whilst it lasted and I cant complain just readjust and hopefully live a bit longer LOL still it gets me out of the gardening LOL sink a few sherbets that will make it seem better .
So I'm going to sell up and get another small lathe just for pens and see how I can cope with that as I have about 200 kits to get through
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You could always do less.
Regards George
Thats what I said but was told NO but if you do be it on your own head the left ventrical is muscle in the heart that pumps the blood around and mine is worn out
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Woody,
Don't give up ! Just do a little at a time, there are no rules to say that you have to stand at the lathe for hours at a time.
I have a 'heart condition', couple of operations and a pacemaker, I just adjust my time, if I feel like doing a bit (of turning !) I do, if I don't then well, I leave it till the next time. Best of it is you can just walk away from the shavings etc and clear them up next time, unless of course your lathe is in the lounge !
Also you can always pass on all you accumulated skills to others who are just starting out.
It's time for you to look at things,we're fortunate we had warnings about our health and can make adjustments. Lot's haven't been given that opportunity.
Take care and keep on turning !
Best wishes,
Bob. ;)
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Woody,
I can't and won't say that you should continue even in a limited way, that's your & the Doctors call.
I'll say that we'll miss posting of your turnings, you are probably the most prolific person amongst us for photographing and showing their work.
Is it all woodwork or just turning, I ask as you post clocks and other non-turned items as well. You say you'll continue with pens, is that acrylic bodies you'll be using?
I support Bob a Job in his statement that you can pass on your knowledge and skills. This can be achieved by answering questions posed in the forum and maybe photographing and posting some of your jigs or set-up posed pictures of some of your methods. We can all learn from one such as you.
However you choose to go on, please take care of yourself and always remember the community of friends you have joined and become an active part of in this forum.
Regards,
Bryan
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Hello Woody, I am sorry to hear of your health problems,I will miss seeing your turned pieces I agree with Bryan you have been very prolific in posting your turnings I think I asked you once if you ever went to bed also stay on the Forum and pass on your experience to others. All of the Very best for the Future. Regards John.
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Sorry to hear this Woody, i wish you well for the future and and look forward to seeing your finished pens ... ;)
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I've only been on this forum for a short while but I have enjoyed reading your posts Woody.
I am sorry to hear of your news but the doctor didn't say you had to stop putting posts on this forum. you must have a wealth of expertise which would help us novices!!!
Best Wishes for the future.
Terry
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woody dont give in just swap the lathe out for a one way sit down one i may know were one is going for sale in lincolnshire if he still has it let me know
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Hello Woody,
I am sorry to hear about your ill health, but I think you should look on this as an opportunity to diverse. They say there is a book in everyone, how about writing a wood turning book based on your experience/s? If you did not want to turn you could get another turner to make the bits and then photograph them as you want.
The trouble with turning is it gets a grip on you and becomes your life and is very hard to give up but there are always ways to keep involved.
Regards
John BHT
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woody dont give in just swap the lathe out for a one way sit down one i may know were one is going for sale in lincolnshire if he still has it let me know
Hi Ian
I have a small lathe that I can sit at but with the condition I have its not just the standing my heart isn't pumping enough blood around to keep my body going and when there is any exertion it takes blood from the muscles and diverts it to the major organs then I get the chest pains and i lose all the power in my arms
But this said I'm not giving up completely I will still try making small items like pens, boxes and small bowls and see how I get on with them but if my body is still saying give turning up then I will as much as I love my hobby I love life even more.
As I said before this has been coming on for a long time that is why I started model making so it may be a bit of turning one day and a bit of model making another but most definitely no more big stuff
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Sorry to hear your news always pleased to see your prolific output. Hopefully we will still see posts from you and also some pen pictures.
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woody dont give in just swap the lathe out for a one way sit down one i may know were one is going for sale in lincolnshire if he still has it let me know
Hi Ian
I have a small lathe that I can sit at but with the condition I have its not just the standing my heart isn't pumping enough blood around to keep my body going and when there is any exertion it takes blood from the muscles and diverts it to the major organs then I get the chest pains and i lose all the power in my arms
But this said I'm not giving up completely I will still try making small items like pens, boxes and small bowls and see how I get on with them but if my body is still saying give turning up then I will as much as I love my hobby I love life even more.
As I said before this has been coming on for a long time that is why I started model making so it may be a bit of turning one day and a bit of model making another but most definitely no more big stuff
well any thing i can do let me know
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Sorry to hear about this woody, I know how you must be feeling I have AF plus some other problems and my turning has been reduced to almost nothing over the last 6 months. Sitting down is a good way to ease the problem but there is also something called pacing I know about it through pain management for arthritis but it can also be used for your problem.
It is a straight forward concept yet hard to put into practice when you are enjoying yourself doing something, I have definitely found it helps over the last 6 months.
There is a lot about it on the web if you search for "pacing pain" as always it helps to have the search filter on. More info here http://www.painsupport.co.uk/pages/pacing.asp
john
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Thank you for trying to be helpful but I have been dealing with joint pain for many years now as I have broken my back twice in the past and have learned pain management the pain I get now is because of heart failure which is a totally different thing and could kill me believe me pain management will not help
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Hi Woody, sorry I didn't explain myself properly, like you I learnt pain management years ago and pacing is one of the methods I use and I have applied the same principals to my current heart problems. I understand fully the implications of your problem as I am in an identical position, all be it from a slightly different diagnosis. I took your previous post to mean that you could do a bit of turning before the symptoms kicked in, if I am wrong I am sorry.
I have found out that on a good day I can do up to 40 minutes of light physical work at a time before I need to rest for between 1 1/2 & 2 hours then I can do another session. In the workshop I have a kitchen timer which I set to 30 minutes when I first go in there. When the timer goes off I stop what I am doing and go indoors for a rest, I have found I can do three sessions a day without out it kicking things off. If I go over time and it starts to kick off I have to rest for three or four days before things go back to normal, I wish, and I can do any more light work so I make sure I don't over do it.
It is a pain being restricted like that but at least I can do some turning all be it small things not the big burrs etc I love to turn.
john
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Really sorry to read this Woody, I`d just like to wish you the best in what ever endeavors your health allows you to pursue.
Best regards.
Doug.
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Hi John I will still be trying small items like pens and boxes I am my own worst enemy and get carried away I tried cutting up some small logs into pen blanks today with rest in between then all hell broke loos your right it is a pain in the neck but I will find the answer this is as I'm sure you will understand a complete new ball game to me and quite frightening especially when you are told one day it will hit you for the last time if you carry on
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Hi Woody,
What can I add, I'm so sorry to see your Health has stopped you from your large Pieces of turning, I've looked back through your posts since April and the wonderful diverse timbers and pieces that you've shared with us all on the forum over the past year, I should hope we'll see the best part, if not all and more besides of the 200 kits converted into the usually wonderful pens you make and your report on the kits used.
As said you have a wealth of skills and knowledge to impart with us all, things some of us have forgotten and other as yet need to know, as with seeing your work and the lastest of the large Cherry bowl, there would be those who would of consigned it to the fire or hacked into smaller pieces, but not you, you saw something in it, in view you are a Master if not by title or letters in the craft and other have so far learnt and can still learn from you the skills, understanding and insight to turn well, if not the same without fear, so it's hoped we've not heard the last of you on here as yet and you continue to love and enjoy your turning, when you can fit it in between the toy making, now should they have any part turned we want to is them, after all it's still wooden.
It has not just been your work, but your homemade wire wool/vinegar finish, drilling jig, sharping jig and hollower that you've so wonderfully shared as well. Thank you.
What no gardening ... :o .. only wish we were near to help.
Is there anything the Doctors can or will do with regards to helping or making life that little better, is there an op. or anything, we hear as to what can be done these days or is it all down to the sherbets.
Wishing you remain in the best of health for along time to come.
Sincere regards. David
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Hi Woody,
What can I add, I'm so sorry to see your Health has stopped you from your large Pieces of turning, I've looked back through your posts since April and the wonderful diverse timbers and pieces that you've shared with us all on the forum over the past year, I should hope we'll see the best part, if not all and more besides of the 200 kits converted into the usually wonderful pens you make and your report on the kits used.
As said you have a wealth of skills and knowledge to impart with us all, things some of us have forgotten and other as yet need to know, as with seeing your work and the lastest of the large Cherry bowl, there would be those who would of consigned it to the fire or hacked into smaller pieces, but not you, you saw something in it, in view you are a Master if not by title or letters in the craft and other have so far learnt and can still learn from you the skills, understanding and insight to turn well, if not the same without fear, so it's hoped we've not heard the last of you on here as yet and you continue to love and enjoy your turning, when you can fit it in between the toy making, now should they have any part turned we want to is them, after all it's still wooden.
It has not just been your work, but your homemade wire wool/vinegar finish, drilling jig, sharping jig and hollower that you've so wonderfully shared as well. Thank you.
What no gardening ... :o .. only wish we were near to help.
Is there anything the Doctors can or will do with regards to helping or making life that little better, is there an op. or anything, we hear as to what can be done these days or is it all down to the sherbets.
Wishing you remain in the best of health for along time to come.
Sincere regards. David
Hi David
Thank you for your very kind comments I will still be around just not doing the big stuff probably pens and Boxes you wont get rid of me that easy LOL also thanks to all you guy for your understanding and support I find it really encouraging Happy turning
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Woody, That's all that we wish for your being round for along long time, now reel in the bull within and take it easy, not that you can, it's the never give in, always active part so take care.
In reading between the lines, with you not saying as to if the Doctors are able to do anything, it's like with my Dad and left to time.
So less of the rush, there's always tomorrow as they keep telling us all.
Cheers David
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Hi Woody,
I have never met you but like others I have enjoyed your turning posts on the forum.
This just to wish you all the best for the future.
John
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Hi Woody, I understand and sympathise with you but I hope you will still offer your welcome comments on this forum.
Gwilym
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Woody, That's all that we wish for your being round for along long time, now reel in the bull within and take it easy, not that you can, it's the never give in, always active part so take care.
In reading between the lines, with you not saying as to if the Doctors are able to do anything, it's like with my Dad and left to time.
So less of the rush, there's always tomorrow as they keep telling us all.
Cheers David
Hi David there is a pump they can fit when it gets to bad that's if I'm in the right location I am being refereed to a specialist at Newark Hospital so we will just have to wait and see
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Woody, That's good to read as to there is a pump, but how bad is bad that they'll do something and what the Fxxxx has being in the right location have in getting it done .. they'll ship organs anywhere so that beats me, if it's only a pump, what are we looking for, can we google it or find one on E-boot ... ;D ..
Sorry .... I don't understand this Country and getting anything done, why should anyone just have to wait, we've paid OUR money for a service, that's then cost cut by not treating people, should you have the money they'd have you in tomorrow .... >:( .. and you'd be back to a better life, even carry on with the turning as normal.
I feel strengly over these things as it was the case with by Dad, they don't act soon enough and when they did, then said it was too late to do anything .. sorry ... I've finished now .. >:( ...
Till they'll do something take care.
David
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Woody, I can only underscore the sentiments already expressed but would like to share a bit of wisdom passed on to me by a physioterrorist treating my back probs some yonks ago.
When I asked about carrying on with my turning he said that Med school didn't actually cover woodyturning so he would have to pass the question to a higher expert.......my own body, it knows more than he ever would and would give plenty of warnings if it wasn't happy. The diffecult bit would be listening out and then acting on those warnings.
It worked for me and I'm still walking upright and turning,
Hope that's of some help to someone out there in turnyland
My advice to Woody? Don't sell up in haste, give it a year to assimilate (my cooldude word of the day 8) the info before taking such a major decision.
All the very best whatever the future holds
Brian
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One other thing I forgot to mention was that after being so active and now not, some days being confined to sitting and reading all day, you find you get different aches and pains. Its a right pain in the butt ;) I wonder what the treatment is for chair sores. ;D
john
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One other thing I forgot to mention was that after being so active and now not, some days being confined to sitting and reading all day, you find you get different aches and pains. Its a right pain in the butt ;) I wonder what the treatment is for chair sores. ;D
john
Hi John I have always been active but my back has got a lot worst I have learned to live with that and managed it quite well but new well I don't know I am finding it difficult to cope with to be honest just sitting isn't me well it never has been and reading I just fall asleep after a little while I'm hoping the model making will keep me going you know the type 36 22 36 LOL I have been out in my work shop today and made a reverse clock from a slice of Yew with the wife filling me ear hole but I will get there in the end and find my nitch what ever it is I'm not the sort to just sit and vegetate
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Just made a rustic wall clock all I had to turn was a 4" hole and sand and I'm shattered fatigue is another thing this condition brings
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Hi woody
I really sorry to hear the news. Wish there was something we could do to help. I love seeing what you make. And i even tried the wirewool and viniger a few days ago. You have so much info and skill i will miss the big items dealy but look forward to the new chapter. With the small things if there is ever any thing i can do to help please let me know. Take care
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Thanks Pete but it is the end of the woodturning road for me I tried a small clock which just needed 4" removed to house the clock insert in the back and I ended up with a load of chest pains again so I'm hanging up my lathe and going to settle into wooden model ships I just cleaned up my saw bench this morning for someone to collect and was shattered for the rest of the day to be honest I'm still having trouble getting my head around it all
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Bless it going to be hard to get your head round it all
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It is sad news and I hope you all the best in your future health and boat building endeavours.
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Thank you kind sirs at least all my machines are going to good homes and to people who appreciate them I only have one dust extractor left to sell and all the small stuff you acquire over the years and then on to the wood but a have a few planks to cut up first into square bowl blanks then we will have my large log cabin to use as a summer house LOL