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Title: Wall decoration
Post by: fuzzyturns on July 23, 2017, 06:09:57 PM
My new workshop has a lot more space than the old one, so that I can now finally work on some larger pieces. This one is about 16" diameter and stands about 1.5" tall/thick. It's made from ash, turned, carved, dyed (blue) and sprayed (black). I personally am a little disappointed with the blue, as it has blended unfavourably (in my opinion) with the natural orangey colour of the ash. However, I've had very positive comments from other people who like it this way, so maybe my colour blindness is having an effect. So let's see what you guys think.

The pictures were taken outside with sunlight, which also seems to have an impact.
Title: Re: Wall decoration
Post by: John D Smith on July 23, 2017, 07:07:43 PM

 Hi Fuzzy,
               I am not sure about this one? the colours do nothing for me too dark I am afraid maybe some brighter colours but leave the dark (river?) running through.
 One point I would make though your comment yesterday on another Topic you said you did not want to post Crap Pictures of your work
 on the Forum well I think you could have done better than these pictures.

                                                 Regards John  :(
Title: Re: Wall decoration
Post by: ken rodgers on July 23, 2017, 08:08:41 PM
Hi Fuzzy.
This one does nothing for me sorry.
The carved area I do like. I would prefer to see the centre bowl without the colouring and the river effect .
Regards Ken


Title: Re: Wall decoration
Post by: GBF on July 23, 2017, 08:12:46 PM
I really dont like anything about this much too dark and the Photography is very poor.

Regards George
Title: Re: Wall decoration
Post by: andy44 on July 23, 2017, 08:23:17 PM
This piece does nothing for me either
regards
Andy
Title: Re: Wall decoration
Post by: fuzzyturns on July 24, 2017, 06:09:59 PM
OK, I get that this one isn't most people's thing. Could you please explain why you think the photography is poor?
Title: Re: Wall decoration
Post by: GBF on July 24, 2017, 06:19:05 PM
I am supprised you have to ask.
It is the background on all three a nice card behind and better lighting would make all the differance.
Look how dark the third one is and it is not even level.
I am sure you are capable of a lot better than this.

Regards George
Title: Re: Wall decoration
Post by: John D Smith on July 24, 2017, 09:59:25 PM
 
 Well Fuzzy,
                  Your comment as I said in my previous post that you would not wish to post Crap Pictures of your work on the Forum

   The photographs you posted are poor and that is my opinion sorry if the truth hurts,please do not take offence at my comments that is

 just how I see it.And it may not do justice to your work
                                                                                     Regards John 
Title: Re: Wall decoration
Post by: fuzzyturns on July 24, 2017, 10:17:40 PM
Hmm, I see where this is going. One guy distorts the colours in my images, one complains about the natural light and the fact that one of them is a little skew, and the third cannot even elaborate why he thinks the images are poor, other than repeating that they are poor and I mustn't be a bad sport.
Well I am not a bad sport, I can take critique. And George does have a point (even though I could point out that some of his garden sculptures were also photographed with natural sunlight and without a cardboard background), the last picture is too dark and not level.
Since I currently do not have the possibility to get my photo tent out and take professional pictures, I shall simply refrain from posting anything until my situation has changed.

I was always under the impression that this is a place where folks come to learn. Seems that has changed somewhat.
Title: Re: Wall decoration
Post by: bernuk1 on July 24, 2017, 10:27:19 PM
I have removed my post-it was not my intention to distort your image=merely to show that the image contained all the relevant info and it just needed a little post production work.I apologise profusely.
I actually find the piece a really strong artistic statement.
Mike.
Title: Re: Wall decoration
Post by: GBF on July 24, 2017, 10:54:57 PM
I think you have brought a lot of this on yourself by your attitude to other members .

Your comment on Photobucket
(My solution is probably a little extreme for most of you, mostly because I actually earn my living doing IT.)
Very condesending.

Your comment On Dying again
(I really do not want to post crapt pictures on here. )

Again on Dying again your comment
( So, unfortunately I have to say that of late I haven't really seen anything on here that would induce me to spend time writing a nice critique. And I haven't seen anything either that I really, really like. Sorry, guys. )
So arragant and disrespectfull to other members in my opinion.

Your comment on this thread
(I was always under the impression that this is a place where folks come to learn. Seems that has changed somewhat.)
In my opinion you dont seem prepared to learn I pointed out very respectfull some points about the quality of you pictures just trying to be helpfull and you have gone into a sulk.
Dont be offended by my comments I am as always trying to be constructive and helpfull

Regards George

Title: Re: Wall decoration
Post by: Duncan A on July 24, 2017, 10:59:56 PM
Personally, I like the "geographical features" and "ripples in the sand".
I find the colours a bit too dark but Fuzzy himself said he wasn't entirely happy with how the blue came out.
Duncan
Title: Re: Wall decoration
Post by: edbanger on July 25, 2017, 11:13:37 PM
Hi Wolfgang

I like seeing something different and I quite like what you have done here.

All the best

Ed
Title: Re: Wall decoration
Post by: fuzzyturns on July 26, 2017, 09:26:57 AM
Thanks, Ed and Duncan, I was beginning to think that I had completely wasted my time and a perfectly decent piece of wood, but it seems the opinions are just strongly split. Which in itself is not a bad thing. So now the challenge is to find a way to make the colours work better.
Title: Re: Wall decoration
Post by: fuzzyturns on July 26, 2017, 10:02:56 PM
I think you have brought a lot of this on yourself by your attitude to other members .

Interesting. I can see why you think that way, I've seen it many times in other people as well. I've been accused of arrogance before, but this isn't arrogance (I am not claiming to be or have what I am not or do not have). I can live with that. I am not intentionally condescending or disrespectful, merely very honest. And I can see how that can hurt, and for that I do apologize.
The really interesting bit is your suggestion that the comments on this piece are less connected to the piece itself and more connected to my interactions with other forum members. So in other words: Be nice and don't step on any toes, and you'll get useful feedback. Be honest and ruffle feathers, and you get hammered. I thought we all had agreed some while ago to rather be honest with each other?
Title: Re: Wall decoration
Post by: GBF on July 26, 2017, 10:36:23 PM

So in other words: Be nice and don't step on any toes, and you'll get useful feedback. Be honest and ruffle feathers, and you get hammered. I thought we all had agreed some while ago to rather be honest with each other?

Whether intentional or not some of your comments lately have come over as aragant and quite condescending .I am probably as guilty as you about the way I put things over I just say it as I see it and maybe we should all think more before putting our thoughts on here.
I am sure if nothing else you are honest and like myself have no intention of causing offence.
Yes I think we should be honest with each other.
I at times get hammered on here as I am not the most popular member but that does not really bother me.

I think as long as they are disliking me they are leaving someone else alone LOL

Regards George

 

Title: Re: Wall decoration
Post by: bodrighywood on July 26, 2017, 10:44:49 PM
One of the main problems with online communication is perhaps all we see is the words in front of us. Some of us are more diplomatic in the way we phrase things, others are blunt and to the point. I know some of the people here more personally so know where they are coming from and others I don't so perhaps would be more inclined to take things said personally. Honesty is fine but we do need to be perhaps a bit more aware of what lies behind the words, I have a sarcastic sense of humour which is fine for those that know me but could sound offensive to those who don't. Also we can all be touchy about the things that we create and react when we don't like what we hear, No-one on here that I know says things deliberately to offend, hurt or annoy, and we all need to learn to perhaps accept that 99% of criticism is meant to be hoonest and helpful.

Pete
Title: Re: Wall decoration
Post by: georg on July 28, 2017, 02:18:13 PM

  Enough as been already said about  Reap what you Sow on other comments..... Personally we have to say we like the
  affect you have achieved on this piece... Question? was the natural wood part added separately.
  Regards Tony di
Title: Re: Wall decoration
Post by: fuzzyturns on July 28, 2017, 05:06:06 PM
No, this is all one piece of wood. The centre is not actually a bowl, it's domed, just in case anybody was wondering. I had the turned shape lying around the workshop for some time before I could make up my mind what to do with it, so this is not actually from a design, this is the result of just letting my intuition flow.

I think I'll leave this one as it is, and try another one, very similar, but with an orangey colour scheme. That should suit the ash wood a lot better. And I think it also needs to be brighter, something several comments are referring to and I do agree with that.
Title: Re: Wall decoration
Post by: Mark Sanger on July 28, 2017, 05:48:56 PM
Found this thread this morning early, but have been busy today so not been able to comment as I always like to think about what to say but then I go get lost in my own mind and run out of time.

I really like this piece, despite your reservations about the colouring, I keep coming back to it. Again the time I have now would not do justice to what I would want to get across.

Never the less I see a lot of depth and scope for this minus the ash/natural wood insert, again not the time to clarify my thoughts on this. They are after all only my thoughts.

don't drop this idea,

all the best Mark







Title: Re: Wall decoration
Post by: Wood spinner on July 30, 2017, 03:46:58 PM
This is somthing very different , I've not seen one like it before , Looks like lots of work went into the carving
Re the lighting , you have directional light running across the piece that should pick out shadow detail ( Texture )
Colour ( Black ) you chose to be different , Well done  ;)
Title: Re: Wall decoration
Post by: Dancie on July 31, 2017, 07:04:07 AM
I think it would be nicer if it was black throughout and either gloss or matt throughout - I can see that a lot of work went into this
Title: Re: Wall decoration
Post by: Bryan Milham on September 01, 2017, 01:06:15 PM
Fuzzy,

maybe it's my years of playing tabletop games, but I see this as a map, the grain forming the hill contours and the central textured area as a river running through. The lighter carved area is a fortified wall around something.

I like it and irrespective of anything else the work and execution of the piece is excellent.
Title: Re: Wall decoration
Post by: fuzzyturns on September 01, 2017, 05:09:42 PM
Thank you very much for the recent, encouraging comments. I already have another 2-3 iterations of this in the works, but it will need some time for them to get finished. At the moment, house renovation takes priority, so I am not getting a lot of workshop time.
Title: Re: Wall decoration
Post by: The Bowler Hatted Turner on September 01, 2017, 06:00:07 PM
Fuzzy I will not comment on the photography as i can do no better myself. The work is to say the least interesting. Personally the blue does not work for me and I wonder if an irredescent blue would give it a lift. Interesting that the centre is domed, if I hadn't seen the side photograph I would not have know.So an illusion has already taken place, I think it would be more interesting if the piece in the centre was undercut and hollowed. I feel that the decoration around the centre is well done but I also think it may be too wide. If we do not try these things and ask others for their opinion we will never know if we are progressing. Negative comments should, in my very humble opinion, be taken as constructive. keep up the good work.