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General Category => Gallery => Topic started by: Derek on August 12, 2020, 04:40:32 PM
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Laburnum and ash baby rattle. the rattle is 6" long and 2" diameter and the base is Oak and measures 8" by 4 1/16"
C & C welcome
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I know, an old chestnut but I am not sure laburnum is a suitable wood for a baby item. A rattle is very likely to end up being sucked and possibly chewed and the wood is classified as toxic. The wood database says 'constitutional effects (nausea, vomiting, headaches); direct toxin' Whatever finish you use on it will soon wear of in the hands of a baby and there's no guarantee that the child has no allergy to the wood. Please think again anout this.
Pete
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With all respects Pete I would never give this to a baby to play with, please note that the rattle is fixed to the base and is a keepsake piece for the parents not for a baby to play with.
I know that new turners need to be aware of this as well as the sizing of a baby rattle to prevent a choking hazard and also a suitable finish.
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Fair enough. I was a bit surprised to see the post but I see this sort of thing so much and yes, bit of a hobby horse of mine. No offence meant so I apologise if any given.
Pete
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No offence taken. Pete
Even though the picture clearly shows the rattle mounted for display I should have made it clear especially for the new turners that it would not be suitable woods for a usable rattle
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No harm in mentioning the dangers of some of the woods we use Pete. ;)
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Never assume someone knows what you know.
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Never assume someone knows what you know.
That is the problem with today's world people can't think for themselves you even have to tell them when buying a carving knife that it may contain items that are sharp
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I'm not allowed near sharp things.
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I'm not allowed near sharp things.
Does that mean all your tools are blunt John LOL. ;D
Pete
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Try the excellent US website for what is acceptable in a baby rattle - see https://www.cpsc.gov/Business--Manufacturing/Business-Education/Business-Guidance/Rattles
Basically no handles or small parts and no toxic coatings or woods (no handles so the baby cannot swallow them). I attach a pic of my dumbbell design I make for family babies but there are others. I used food dyes and an acceptable finish (a hard wax oil - check EU standards on the tin).
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Try the excellent US website for what is acceptable in a baby rattle - see https://www.cpsc.gov/Business--Manufacturing/Business-Education/Business-Guidance/Rattles
Basically no handles or small parts and no toxic coatings or woods (no handles so the baby cannot swallow them). I attach a pic of my dumbbell design I make for family babies but there are others. I used food dyes and an acceptable finish (a hard wax oil - check EU standards on the tin).
If you are in the UK then follow our guides as American guide may be different
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Derek - but our babies are the same! The US guide is clearer. The EU guidance is better on coatings for under 3's. This is not an area appropriate for narrow nationalism!
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Derek - but our babies are the same! The US guide is clearer. The EU guidance is better on coatings for under 3's. This is not an area appropriate for narrow nationalism!
The American rules for killing intruders is also clearer in America so with your theory we can do the same.
As we live in England then we need to abide by our guidelines.
This is the last I will post on this as I will stick to what applies here in the UK. Sorry if it upsets you but I will let you carry on following guidelines from other countries
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Derek, it is beautifully made and presented and I'm sure it will be a lovely keepsake for the parents.
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No idea if this information is of any use to members of this forum, but there are regs for small parts for children, attached below
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Derek, it is beautifully made and presented and I'm sure it will be a lovely keepsake for the parents.
Thank you Bryan
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Just to note wrt my response above this design is now very popular with the 7-8 month olds around the family (it is my standard present for new babies). Reported as the favourite toy!
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For those that may wish to share the above safety document this is the link to it.
https://www.toyindustries.eu/resource/tie-articles-toy-safety-requirements-standardisation/
Downloadable PDF Third from the bottom.