Hi Rick , I hope you are not offended by my comments as they were not meant to be so ( if I want to offend anyone I will make it obvious !! lol ) Some times things put in to text can come across differently as to what was meant by it , apologies if this was so ( or am I mis understanding yours now ? ) What I meant by reference to " it is hard not to make a great piece from burr elm " is that it is such a fabulous wood, what ever some one makes from it , it will look better than made from almost any other wood , that is why we all seek such lovely wood , and I like to complement the wood as well as the craftsman , it is obvious from your pics that good tool control was used , and getting a fine finish ,as you have done was not easy with that missing piece on the rim so well done . Personally ( and I might be the only one ! ) I do not like the down sloping outer rim of the bowl ... was wondering if it was a collaboration how a decision was achieved on what to make ? Terry...