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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: burywoodturners on September 15, 2019, 07:24:48 PM
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I still have problems posting a picture, but I got one this time!
I have wanted to make some of these figurines for a while now, having seen some made a club demo. I got stuck with the off center points and the sequence of them, the picture is my best effort to date.
I cannot find anything on YouTube, mainly, I suspect because I do not know the correct name for them.
Anyone help with this?
Thanks
Ron
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I would call that a Peg Doll, or kokeshi doll, there are a number of variations on youtube. A wobble chuck would assist with the off centre portions.
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These can be turned between centres or as here (https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=video&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwiO7N_k0dPkAhX0ThUIHWs6Ct8QtwIIKjAA&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DX5rFqy6gdrk&usg=AOvVaw2KqK-2Lh9tcrarXNy4GQ_G) held in an ordinairy chuck and adjusted for each angle.
Hope this helps.
Pete
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These can be turned between centres or as here (https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=video&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwiO7N_k0dPkAhX0ThUIHWs6Ct8QtwIIKjAA&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DX5rFqy6gdrk&usg=AOvVaw2KqK-2Lh9tcrarXNy4GQ_G) held in an ordinairy chuck and adjusted for each angle.
Hope this helps.
Pete
I do remember doing something like this but between centers, seems a bit odd to use a chuck here (with less 60 grit!) if I remember rightly we centered a 5 pence piece on the live end drew a line through it and took the center and 2 points where the the line crossed the circle to get our offsets I now use either a steb centre or ring drive both of which should work very well for this, but it would have been a 2 prong back when we did it.
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Main advantage of doing it held in a chuck is that you need less pressure through the unsupported sections. When doing it between centres it can be awkward cutting without tightening too much as it can spin between the centres.
Pete
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I get that Pete, but find I really don't need a lot of pressure on the steb center, I did it during training, I think we were making legs for a three legged stool which would explain the using a fixed size circle, plus the sizing would have been quite chunky as a stool leg.
I am inspired Ron's post to make one when I go to the workshop tomorrow, have a granddaughter who can paint it herself and would probably treasure it.
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I have attached, a document explaining the step by step process for these that I used to do at the end of a demo when I had 10 minutes to spare.
Cheers Martin.
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Now there's an excellent document for our Monthly challenge, May I use this in our club Martin ? -- Julian
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Thanks to everyone for their responses to my plea!
I had tried this between centres,but Colin Smith (SE AWGB Rep) showed us the way to use the chuck, but this was a while ago and I could not remember the rest of it!
A big thank you to Martin for the document,now printed off ready to try again tomorrow.
Now I know its a peg doll I can search again on YouTube.
I will post pictures of my success, assuming I have any!
Thank again
Ron
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Am I missing something here it does not look finished
Regards George
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Julian,
Of course you can use it please carry on.
I cannot recall the name of the turner who's idea this was, certainly not mine.
Cheers Martin.
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This is my first attempt at the Edwardian Lady. Thank You Ron for the idea, and yes George this is an unfinished prototype.... going to use what I learned on a slightly nicer piece of wood now.
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I know we had one of our club members demo turning one of these and this was my poor attempt.
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It is better than mine so far Derek! I tried Martin Lawrences' plan and got one reasonable lady, but I do need a lot more practice.
I tried Kokeshi and peg dolls on YouTube and neither of these are what I wanted.
I will post some pics later.
Rin
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I made another but also did very basic instructions.
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The only bit I did not show was the hat turning
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Not the best photography as set in a frame with glass, this is made with the process of two pieces stuck together with a paper lining so after turning can be separated, the shoes took a bit of forethought this was a commission for a couple of ballroom dancers.
Cheers Martin.
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Kokeshi are the sort of thing that Cynthia Carden Gibson decorates and traditionally the heads were made seperately and banged on as a tight fit. Peg dolls are the ones made from the old style clothes pegs. What you are looking at here is an off~centre female form and as you are finding, getting the offcentre angles right is not as easy as it looks. I made a few some years ago to see oif it was worth making them for sale but they take too much hassle and I couldn't sell them at a sensible price. Good fun though.
Pete
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Thanks Derek, that is the clearest description yet, i will try again soon. I have been using pine to try to get the sequence right, any thoughts on the best wood to use/
Ron
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Thanks Derek, that is the clearest description yet, i will try again soon. I have been using pine to try to get the sequence right, any thoughts on the best wood to use/
Ron
It is only a very basic run through as for wood depends on what you want to use this one is in Yew
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That is a very good wip Derek, well done.
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I have seen these made and admire the technique - but even the best do not look much like people to me!
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I have seen these made and admire the technique - but even the best do not look much like people to me!
They are very much in the Art Nouveau style and were often depicted in glass or ceramics, sometimes bronze.
Pete
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but even the best do not look much like people to me!
You could always give up turning and take up woodcarving instead ;D ;D ;D
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'You could always give up turning and take up woodcarving instead'
I suppose it depends how round you like your people!